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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:43 am Post subject: Walk-the-Talk
Dear Abdul:
I would not get too despondent, just yet. The Democrats will now have to walk-the-talk. It is one thing to criticize Bush and his administration, but it is quite another to chart a new course to amelioration. I seriously doubt the Democrats have a course of action in mind.
The Democrats harped upon scandals and corruption. Truly, their party is no standard of excellence from which to eradicate those issues from the political sphere. In the next two years, the American voters will acquire the opportunity to refresh their minds about Democrats in action.
Nancy Pelosi, currently reveling in her moment, already has dispatched her spin-mongers into distancing herself from her San Francisco electorate (the freak & nut electorate) that spawned her. Nancy now re-claims her Maryland roots in order to enhance her acceptance into the Washington limelight. Humor may be the only attribute that we can expect from this creature from the Dark Side of society.
Yes, in the next few days, the Democrats will realize that they have to walk-the-talk. Shock will be the least of their worries ... and mindless rhetoric will not save them!
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:43 am Post subject: Not To Be A Doomsayer, But...
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The on-going celebrations by Jihadists, insurgents, and terrorists all throughout the world as I write this, should be a very telling sign of who has won and who has lost in these elections!
I hate to be a "prophet of doom" here, but this is far more ominous than most people believe it to be!
If emboldened by our lack of resolve, the Democrat's "defeatism," and their likely attempts now, to rescind the Patriot Act and dismantle all the anti-terrorist programs they object to so much, that the Bush Administration has put in place for our protection, we suffer another, and far worse 9/11, it may well trigger a visceral reaction from all the fed-up Americans that have been silenced by this political "Coup d'état" carried out by the Democrats and the liberal media, and I fear we may well be facing another Civil War, and or the intervention of our military, in order to dethrone the secularist, socialist, Democrats and put things back in order, for the sake of our very survival! And such ominous prospects are not encouraging!
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: I Would Like To Add...
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I hate to think that such a thing may actually happen, but I'm sure that most of those young men and women, and their families, sacrificng their lives and spilling their blood in Iraq, fighting the Islamist enemy, will not take the Democrats
"defeatism" lightly, and allow them to make of their sacrifice a "mockery," just as they did with Viet Nam; and that we may well see them all organize and storm the halls of Congress to depose the "enemy within," and stamp out the traitorous, godless, immoral "Democrats" from the halls of Congress and from the face of America, for good!
I totally disapprove of such a radical course of action, but have to admit I won't be shedding any tears for Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, Dick Durbin, Howard Dean, the Clintons, and their ilk interned in military camps awaiting to be Court-Martialled for "treason" by our military!
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: America Stands Up
From 1980 to 1988 Iran fought a bloody war with Iraq. The goals of Iran in that war were to get rid of Sadaam Hussein, make sure Iraq had no nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction that they could use against Iran, and to bring the Shiites to power.
Bush and the Republicans handed all Iran's goals to them on a silver platter.
A couple of years ago, one of Osama's main operatives in the Middle East was captured. During interrogation, he was asked why they attacked America in that way. He responded that their goal was to draw America into attacking a country in the Middle East, so that they would not only have access to attacking American soldiers directly, but also that such an attack was bound to enrage and enflame Muslims so that they would have many more people join their cause.
Bush and the Republicans played right into their hands.
From the Washington Post:
A 30-page National Intelligence Estimate completed in April cites the "centrality" of the U.S. invasion of Iraq, and the insurgency that has followed, as the leading inspiration for new Islamic extremist networks and cells that are united by little more than an anti-Western agenda. It concludes that, rather than contributing to eventual victory in the global counterterrorism struggle, the situation in Iraq has worsened the U.S. position, according to officials familiar with the classified document.
So, far from dancing in the streets, the terrorists and insurgents woke up this morning to realize that their party is almost over. They've been feasting on the right-wing's idiotic support for a war that has given the terrorists more than they could have ever hoped for, while Americans have seen their Constitution treated as if it were a list of suggestions that could be ignored at will.
My faith in America is renewed this morning, that it is not Democrats that have beaten Republicans, but that the American people have seen through the Bush bulls***, have realized that the Republicans with their hypocrisy and corruption are bad for America, and have thrown the bums out.
Rohidas, what has been renewed this morning is your idiocy! It will be "cut-and-run," "let's re-live our glorious defeat in Viet Nam," Democrats which will hand Iraq over on a "silver platter" to Iran if we pull out now before the job is done, and you know damn well that is precisely what the Democrats intend to do!
As to your lunatic statements about the Constitution, assigning "Constitutional rights" to enemy terrorist combatants is the most absurd travesty that twisted Democratic minds have ever come up with! It does not violate our Constitution
in the least to be "viglantly" pro-active in deterring terrorism as with the "Patriot Act," and the NSA and Swift programs! It is absurd to be discussing the philosophical abstract ideological niceties that so concern Democrats about such programs, when the end result of not implementing them would be only to make it easier for terrorists to carry out attacks against us, and harder for us to prevent them, further endangering the American people! How asinine is that?!?!
Soon the Dems will have us pull out of Iraq, cave in to Iran's nuclear aspirations, and the Caliphate will spread all throughout the Middle East, thanks to the Democrats! Al Qaeda has it's work cut out for them! They have the best "allies" they could have ever hoped for just take over our Congress!
I hate to put it like this, but America chose the Democrats and soon they will live, or rather
"die," to regret it! Just wait and see! God help us with these godless Democrats!!!
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: Yes
Althor, you sound very rational. It sounds so reasonable that Americans will die because the American people have woken up and voted their conscience. Many Republicans either stayed home, or voted for the Independant candidate.
Oh, and reall rational...godless Democrats. I assume you learned the word godless from Ann Coulter.
Do you realize that Democrats can't pull us out of Iraq tomorrow, or ever, for that matter, and many Republicans are calling for a sever change in Iraq, starting with Rummy losing his job. You, sir, are now in the minority. And I was hoping you would do what you claimed the Democrats didn't do in 2002 and 2004, which is accept defeat graciously.
I know it's lonely, you, Mr. and Mrs. Bush, Barney being the only who thinks that God has told Bush to do this war in Iraq.
So...GET OVER IT. You lost, and you lost BIG, and you lost big for a good reason.
The real truth here is that Democrats and Republicans are the same thing - they are all Americans, and both are equally interested in what's best for America. It's not a question as to whether Democrats hate terrorists more than Republicans. The issue is simply one of strategy - what's the best way to go about countering this terrible force? I'm not saying I know the answer, nor am I claiming that Democrats have the answer. But what is crystal clear at this point is that the strategy adopted by the Bush administration is a disaster. It is causing more terrorism, not less. If you don't see this, you are hiding your head in the sand.
What the voters said yesterday is that we need a change. If you don't think so, I feel sorry for you. Because what Bush has done for the last 6 years has brought shame to our great country, and I can't see how anyone can call themselves patriotic if they want to continue down this path.
Quote: "The American people have finally woken up."
# Posted by happywash at 11/08/2006 12:00
To quote Rick's remark to Sam in Casablanca: "I bet you they are all asleep all over America..."
The rude awakening will come with the next catastrophic terrorist attack on our soil! That's when Americans will wake up and realize the consequences of what they've done! Unfortunately, it's just a matter of time now, and then it will be too late!!!
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject: Shame???
Quote: Because what Bush has done for the last 6 years has brought shame to our great country, and I can't see how anyone can call themselves patriotic if they want to continue down this path.
# Posted by Rohidas at 11/08/2006 03:13 pm
You call "shame" Bush having had the "cojones" to grab the bull by the horns and meet head-on this Islamist global threat thrust upon us on 9/11? You call "shameful" deposing Saddam and fighting the terrorists right in their lairs, instead of in our streets???
I guess your concept of "Pride" and "morality" is Clinton chasing interns and "nailing" them in the Oval office, instead of nailing Osama Bin Laden the "eight" times we had him in the crosshairs; which he failed to do!!!
"You call 'shame' Bush having had the 'cojones' to grab the bull by the horns and meet head-on this Islamist global threat thrust upon us on 9/11?"
If the Administration and the Republican congress were successful even once, you might have some grounds to stand on. But, in fact, they are a model of incompetence. Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, N. Korea ... you may be proud, but I have been ashamed for our country for the last 3.5 years. It only started to change this morning.
As for "pride" and "morality" ... are you serious?! Abramoff, Delay, Ney, Foley, Brownie, Haggard ... I would go on if I had the time. Clinton got a BJ from a consenting adult female. The Republicans, in contast, ass-raped the entire country.
And Clinton was ready to pull the trigger on OBL. He only needed the NSA to certify that the target had been acquired, but they wouldn't. And Clinton wasn't fool enough to call an airstrike on a sovereign nation, knowing what the Republican congress would do to him if he was wrong and out on a limb by himself.
Rohidas, you were right on, and civil about it. I commend you.
The real irony of Althor's claim about Clinton having Osama "in the crosshairs", aside from it being false (that's what happens when you get your facts from an ABC mockumentary), is that it was Bush who had Osama and about 3000 Taliban fighters cornered in Tora Bora in Nov. 2001, and he got away. That is somewhat understandable, as our troops were not familiar enough with the area. But the real crime is that by pulling our troops out of Afghanistan in order to fight in Iraq, we lost any real chance of catching him. That's the whole point of the anti-Iraq war side, that we attacked a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, and thereby lost any chance to not only capture bin Laden, but the thousands of real terrorists that were in the Taliban. History will show that it was Bush who let down America by not only letting the perpetrators of the worst crime in our history get away, but giving them an excuse to recruit thousands of additional terrorists.
And please keep in mind that the Clinton years were prior to 9/11, and we really had no idea yet of what was in store. Yet even so, Clinton actually put more effort into finding Bin Laden pre 9/11 than Bush has post 9/11. But before you jump on that statement, just remember that 9/11 was 5 years ago, and the perpetrator is still at large.
Quote:" As for "pride" and "morality" ... are you serious?! Abramoff, Delay, Ney, Foley, Brownie, Haggard ... I would go on if I had the time. Clinton got a BJ from a consenting adult female. The Republicans, in contast, ass-raped the entire country."
Althor, enjoy the grapes.
# Posted by Shimanilami at 11/08/2006 07:09 pm
I just love this! The "Party of all things Immoral" pretending outrage about Republican
"immorality"??? The ones that not only love "ass raping" as you say, but want to make it into "Legal Unions" are the Democrats! Do I have to remind you that it was Gerry Studds who made it fashionable to be "gay" and banging Pages in Congress, taking his Pages to sodomize them in Portugal or Morocco so as to be able to get away with it??? Or Barney Frank's gay male prostituion ring using minors??? You have to be kiidding me! Republican "pecadilloes" pale in comparison to the outright sheer immoral Democratic indecency from President Clinton on down!!!
As to North Korea, I thought President Clinton and Madeleine Albright were the ones who had dealt with and created that mess with their wimpy 1994 treaty which was violated by the North Koreans from ther get-go, which Bush simply inherited. But perhaps you fault President Bush for not sending another "autographed basketball" to Kim Jong-il, and or keep sending him more oil and food subsidies, while the North Koreans quietly minded their business of building nuclear weapons!!!
And as to the grapes, go ahead and gloat and pat each other on your yellow streaked backs; it will be Democrats who will ultimately enjoy them when we are next attacked here at home under the auspices of the traitorous Democratic scum: "The Grapes of Wrath!!!
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