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August 20, 2007

More About The Indonesian Summit by HuT

Topics: International News, Islam And The War On Terror, Political News and commentaries, Understanding Islam

Richard posted about it here some days ago.I have written a long post about the Indonesian summit, held by 100.000 Hibz ut-Tahrir supporters asking for the Caliphate and supporting the introduction of Sharia Law in Indonesia -with Turkey, one of the few stable democracies in the Muslim world-.

There are several things that worry me really: the secret recruitment, the selection of the recruits between educated middle-class and their support of terrorism. Yes, I know that they say they are not violent, but they support terrorism both in Palestine and in Iraq, saying it's the Jihad.

Of course, they reject Western democracy, but support a democracy with religious values, although they support the Islamic Caliphate -something which proves they are not supporting religious values in general but only Islamic-. They also pretend as a final goal, the conversion of all the world to Islam.

I also analyse the possible implications that this can have for Indonesia, for Europe and specifically Spain where their numbers are surging, specifically in Catalonia.

Posted by Eurabian at August 20, 2007 5:41 AM

The big difference between Christianity and Islam:
*If Christians are a majority in a country, they will allow freedom of religion to a Muslim minority
*If Muslims are a majority in a country, they will convert or kill the Christians

It seems this difference in approach might be the undoing of our freedoms, because it puts us at a disadvantage. And since we are losing our ground incrementally, too much may be lost before we snap out of our complacency and try to save ourselves.

A Yank in Kiwi Land compared this to cooking a lobster -- If you plunge a live lobster into boiling water, it knows it is being killed and screams with pain until it dies. But if you put it in a pot of lukewarm water and gradually bring it up to a boil, it dies "unaware."

After reading his post, I will probably never eat lobster again, but this IS a good analogy for the incremental loss of our traditional values.

Posted by: American Daughter at August 20, 2007 6:53 AM

A very good example, American Daughter. And another reason why I'm very worried. It's the same thing they did here on 711: very little number of warriors but a lot of effectiveness in using the political circumstances in their own favour. They outlaw all the people who do not think like them, and the majority, out of fear or considering that their own lifes can be at stake, just let them do what they want.
And the most worrying thing is that this danger can be stopped...

Posted by: Vorzheva/Eurabian at August 20, 2007 7:05 AM

This is yet another illustration of the readily observable fact that the West has not yet come to terms with the nature and extent of the threat posed by radical Islam. This threat is exacerbated by the existence of a sizeable group of people who live in the West but do everything in their power to thwart its effort to confront this threat.

I often wonder how many innocent people Islamic terrorists will have to slaughter in cold blood before Leftists stop putting terrorism in inverted comma - you know, because it's not real, it's something neocons made up.

Check out my blog where I debate a leftie about detainment of illegal combatants:

Posted by: Liron of Sydney Author Profile Page at August 20, 2007 9:25 AM

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