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July 24, 2007

'Hateful' Hispanic Group Wants To Stop Spread Of Hate (as in others, not theirs)

Topics: Immigration and Border Issues

Isn't the National Council of La Raza ("For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing.") saying they want to come up with a strategy to combat "a wave of hate" its leaders say came from talk radio's efforts to sink the Senate's immigration bill - like the pot calling the kettle black?

Calling this "priceless" and "too funny," a Digg submitter notes:

... La Raza, itself a hate group advocating the "Reconquista" of the western USA, claims that the anti illegal immigration movement is part of a "wave of hate" targeted specifically against Hispanics. This is almost TOO funny. Perhaps they need to look at themselves and their manifesto first, before judging others.
Anericans should learn The Truth About 'La Raza' before falling for its propaganda.

Posted by Richard at July 24, 2007 8:18 AM

La Raza is basically the Hispanic version of the NAACP. I think it is time conservatives take a time out and stop and examine the actual facts. La Raza has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with this silly notion of retaking the southwest for Mexico. http://www.nclr.org/content/viewpoints/detail/42500/

As to the Human Events article by Norwood, La Raza asked Norwood to respond and to retract some of his statements. The above URL provides a history of that action.

I always thought those of us who were conservatives had the rational judgment to examine something from all sources and all angles. I have. Unfortunately much of this anti-La Raza rhetoric doesn't pass the smell test.

Also, as I showed in a posting on The Pink Flamingo on Sunday, there is an increase in racist rhetoric toward Hispanics. The only reason I'm even in this fight is because of a horrific racist incident involving friends who are Hispanic and very good Republicans. What was done to them and to their son was deplorable and reeks of something that would happen in another country. My eyes were opened after I learned of the things done to him and to their family, things which are not to happen in this country, but because of the anti-immigration 'movement' are now occuring.

I live in New Mexico. I see what is happening. I talk to people who are Hispanic who have been subjeted to this increase in racism.

Sorry - La Raza is right.

Oh, the people I am talking to - they are REPUBLICAN. Their Hispanic ancestors have been here for centuries. Please, open your eyes to the bigotry that is increasing.

Something ugly is going on out there, and I don't like it. Nothing everything Hispanic is evil. Not everything 'conservative' is good.

SJ Reidhead
The Pink Flamingo

Posted by: S. J. Reidhead at July 24, 2007 7:58 PM

Sorry, S.J.R., I hate to disagree with a fellow conservative blogger who, for the most part has many views in common with my own, but although I certainly respect both your opinion and your right to it, as CNN notes - La Raza is no ordinary organization.
... The name, in English, literally "the race," is something its embattled apologists now claim means "every race" or "community" -- both absurd, since they both mean just the opposite of the actual word.

The organization has been around since the 1960s, with many name changes. If it really means "community," the Spanish language provides at least two completely serviceable words for that -- "pueblo" and "comunidad." It's called La Raza because its leaders want to be called that.

La Raza is not only the loudest proponent of illegal immigration in the U.S. It fosters ethnic separatism in schools. It runs Hugo Chavez-type handouts for indigents and has ties it refuses to renounce to fringe groups like MEChA, whose own slogan is derived from the rhetoric of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro: "Through the race, everything; outside the race, nothing."

Today's La Raza is a $52 million not-for-profit group that lives off congressional earmarks, shakes down big corporations like WalMart and Bank of America (NYSE:BAC PRZ) (NYSE:BAC PRA) (NYSE:IKR) (NYSE:IKM) (NYSE:IKL) (NYSE:IKJ) (NYSE:BAC) for financial support, and has made illegal immigration and ethnic separatism its leading agenda.La Raza can say whatever it wants, but facts speak against much of their spin. La Raza is a hate group, and their links to racist groups are too well known for them to pretend otherwise. It is La Raza that plays the race card, albeit I can't dispute the fact that there may be indeed some conservatives that do the same.

However, the overwhelming majority of conservatives simply want our immigration laws enforced, and people that sneaked into our country and have remained here illegally, regardless of the race or country of origin, to leave. That is not being racist, it is simply the law. Neither I nor anyone I know is against "Hispanics," quite the contrary, I and everyone else I know that is against illegal immigration and open borders, happens to have absolutely no problem with any immigrant that has come into our country legally.

Wanting our laws enforced does not equate to racism, it equates to respect for the rule of law.

Posted by: Richard at July 25, 2007 12:11 AM

Following up on Richard's comments, and sharing his respect for a fellow blogger, here's a little more along the same lines as Richard's commentary: It's Michael Kraft on, "La Raza Pulls Race Card" http://www.charlotteconservative.com/index.php/2007/07/la-raza-race-card/

... Stephen Dinan, writing for The Washington Times, in a story published yesterday entitled “Hispanic Group Aims To Stop Wave of Hate, quotes Cecelia Munoz of the National Council of La Raza, speaking in the context of the recent defeat of the Senate Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill:

I don't think we should be comfortable with the fact that the United States Senate responded to what was largely a wave of hate.

I think we have to shine a light on it
At the end of the day, we believe people need to take sides, that you can't stand on the sidelines, especially if part of what is motivating the actions of the United States Congress is not really about the public-policy debate, but is about their discomfort with Latinos.

Of course, Munoz, taking a page from the playbook of Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and columnist Linda Chavez, apparently reserves the right to ascribe to opponents of the Bush-Kennedy-Kyl-McCain Shamnesty Bill i.e., a bill that would have legalized 12 to 20 million illegal aliens the pejoratives of nativist, bigot, and xenophobe.

After all, when you want to advance a subversive agenda, might as well pull out all the stops.

Fact is, American citizens who overwhelmingly and legitimately took issue with the Senate's amnesty-citizenship giveaway do not have discomfort with Latinos; rather, they have an abiding respect for the Rule of Law in this country and have run out of patience with a president and a Congress which refuse to secure our nation's borders and maritime ports, and who think the answer to governmental malfeasance, ineptitude, and willful disregard of the Constitutional mandate to protect every state in the Union from invasion, is more incomprehensible legislation, rather than strict enforcement of ample, existing federal immigration laws.

Read this complete segment from our friends at Read this complete segment from our friends at http://acertainslantoflight.net/?p=2141

What we learn from this story is the actions of those with no stance in what is right choose to attack those who do. Just about the lowest form of debate seems to be the race card. In a country where political correctness has become a weapon of those who are in the wrong, here is another shining example of using the freedoms of honest people to support crime.

Illegals are not immigrants, immigrants are not illegals.

These are two completely seperate concepts that pro-amnesty special interest groups wish to lump together to further their personal agenda.

Cries of racism from those who are lawless and have no moral stance in reality. Americans want laws and our country respected by those who have shown respect for neither.

Perhaps the country and mainstream media needs to be reminded that Americans are the victims here.

I dont care how hard your illegal job is, it is honest Americans that have no part in this that are the victims of the crimes of 15 million people.

Note to La Raza:
All Americans are the victims of your crimes of illegal immigration, not you.

Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, White Americans & Black Americans. We are ALL the victims of a degraded state of our laws, or safety, our sovereignty, and our society at the hands of illegal immigrants.

Posted by: Abdul at July 25, 2007 12:30 AM

You don't want to qoute "Charlotte Conservative". It is a 'hit piece' with no way to track who is writing it. One thing I've learned is when you can't find out who is backing a site something's wrong.

Check yesterday's Pink Flamingo. I did a little investigating and have probably answered most of your comments.

I found some very interesting things, that's for sure.

SJ Reidhead
The Pink Flamngo

Posted by: SJ Reidhead at July 25, 2007 4:59 PM

SJR, very interesting approach to disagreement or personal bias. If a piece disagrees with you or offers an opposing view, it's a hit piece. Hmmmmmm..

Got it. I'll have to try it sometime.

BTW, Hyscience is "backed" by 2 medical development scientists, but for all anyone knows, it could be "backed" by the KKK or al-Qaeda, and no one would be the wiser.

Nonetheless, readers are free to judge our content and return, or not, and our opinions are just that, our opinions, none of which make us the definitive authority on any given topic, try as we may to do our best to present the real facts.

On the other hand, we are free to judge the opinions of others that we value the most, especially when juxtaposed with our own knowledge, experience, and opinions, we can feel comfortable with our position. And we believe that Mike Kraft's pieces at the CC have been on target thus far, as is his piece on La Raza. And thinking La Raza isn't racist is being, in our minds, a bit naive.

But after all is said and done, our readers are perfectly free to disagree with us, and in the end we can all agree to disagree. That's, after all, one of the things that makes America such a great country.

Now having beaten this dead horse a while, I'm going to go have a couple of double Jacks, crack open some Rumi, and pretend the world's all full of peace and harmony, even though I'm well award that's about the most ridiculous thing a man can do.

On the other hand, I could pretend La Raza is all about brotherly love.

Posted by: Abdul at July 25, 2007 10:57 PM

One more thing. As an immigrant myself, I surely have no problem with immigrants - "legal" immigrants that have done what I had to do - jump through the proper hoops, to be able to come to this country and remain here.

As for somehow relating a disgust and disapproval of illegal immigration to hating Hispanics, that just doesn't make sense and it's a hell of a leap. Are all illegal aliens "Hispanic"?

Noooooooo way, Jose. Are most illegal aliens - Mexicans? Likely a safe bet they are.

Does having respect for the rule of law make one a racist and a hater of Hispanics or Mexicans?

No, it simply makes them someone that respects the rule of law. To think otherwise one might say that someone who obeys the laws of our land is a racist - which is just as ridiculous.


Posted by: Abdul at July 25, 2007 11:19 PM



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