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December 4, 2005

HarryTho 12/04 Natalee Holloway Commentary

Topics: Natalee Holloway

Hope everyone had a good weekend.

What I want to discuss this evening is a question that arose over the hard drive handed into the Ventura Office of the FBI by Jamie Skeeter. How many hard drives, and how many computers does Jamie Skeeter have?

First, does it make a difference? Jamie Skeeter claims to have removed the hard drive from his computer. This tells us that he was familiar enough with computer electronics in order to know how to do it. Could he have simply downloaded the contents of his computer onto a new or older hard drive and handed that hand drive into the FBI? Could he have handed in a completely fabricated hard drive that never experienced a download from his computer? How would we know?

The hard drive component has identification data linking for quality control purposes to the manufacturer and the precise assembly unit. These types of components are manufactured on the economy of scale. Defects need to be identified and rectified immediately in order to minimize losses from rejected products. Accordingly, traceability becomes an integral part of their manufacturing process. We can trace the hard drive that Jamie Skeeter gave to the FBI right back to the manufacturer. Also, we can predict, probably with extreme accuracy, the precise computer with which the hard drive was installed, if any. Had Jamie Skeeter attempted to swap the hard drives, traceability would uncover such attempts.

Now, a more delicate exploration would be whether or not the CD-ROM provided by Jamie Skeeter, allegedly downloaded form his computer hard drive, did, in fact, come from his hard drive. CD-ROMs do not have the degree of traceability assigned to computer components. Most CD-ROMs are mass produced, economy of scale as well, in the category of to whom it may concern.

Let us review a few related forensic fields as examples. In ballistic, a projectile can be traced to the precise barrel of a weapon from which it was discharged by examining, with a trained eye, the rifling of the barrel. The rifling will imprint certain characteristic marks upon the projectile, as it screams out the barrel. Likewise, a spent cartridge can be evaluated to determine which handgun hammer pressed against the base of the cartridge in order to ignite the powder.

Fingerprinting employs a similar phenomenon in that the pressure from a person's hand enables a print of the person's finger to be detected on any imprintable-medium upon which it is applied. The theory here is that each person has a distinct fingerprint.

A third such forensic science is fatigue studies of metal. Metal failures can be determined by studying the patterns of fatigue embedded in the metal at the point failure. Certain failures, like brittle fracture, provide clear indications of what kind of tensile stress caused the metal to fail. There are many kinds of failures, ranging from quick cleaves to slow stretching in which the metal is pulled apart like an elastic band. Each failure provides a pattern. It could be said that there are as many patterns as there are failures; however, at the moment, we contain our evaluations into a merely a number of distinct categories.

Let us return to CD-ROMs. When CD-ROMs are imprinted during a download process, they too become imprinted by the hard drive. I believe, we can assume that like rifle barrels, hard drives will provide different imprint characteristic, based upon anomalies in their design and fabrication processes. Accordingly, it is possible for an advance forensic laboratory to determine whether or not Jamie Skeeter's CD-ROM was downloaded form his computer hard drive or someone else's. Also, it may be possible to determine if other hard drives were employed in the download of the material onto the CD-ROM allegedly employed by Jamie Skeeter. We may, additionally, be able to ascertain whether or not Jamie Skeeter's hard drive was used at all in the production of the CD-ROM.

Second, I felt relieved when an "independent audio analysis" company/institution confirmed Jamie Skeeter tape/CD-ROM that he delivered to Dr. Phil McGraw. At least we have a lead as to whom may have assisted Jamie Skeeter, if, in fact, it was he who manipulated the tape aired on the Dr. Phil Show.

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Posted by Richard at December 4, 2005 10:13 PM

Thanks for the technical info. I am sure something is amiss. We now have multiple hard drives, cd roms and vcr tapes. It is curious that such an 'expert' as Jaime has produced such poor quality originals - no camera work, the camera almost pointing to the ceiling, extremely poor voice quality. How the initial interviews was 'taped' would be interesting to know. Was it video taped directly into the computer?
It Jaime or one of the producers on the Dr. Phil show did compromise this 'evidence' I hope they are made out for what they are...bunch of lying thieves.

Posted by: John at December 4, 2005 10:55 PM

Harry,
The independent audio analysis company confirmed the tape given to Dr.Phil. Are you implying then that the tape made by Jaime Skeeters was pristine. Or are you implying that that particular tape was confirmed. What does confirmed actually mean, not manipulated? How do we know that the tapes given to the Arubans and the FBI are the same tape? How do we know that they all weren't given different tapes?
What if Dr.Phil can prove that nothing was done to the tape that was given to him?
Actually, maybe I'm dense, why are you relieved?
Essentially, could you please explain it to me? Thanks.

Posted by: Little Bo Peep at December 4, 2005 11:11 PM

Dear Little Bo Beep:

Do I really need to explain this? Relieved, as used above, means that we have a lead as to a possible accomplice. How could I possibly imply that the Dr. Phil Show tape was pristine? The Dutch Forensic Institute (DFI) has declared it manipulated. It is manipulate! What I tried to relate was that some alleged "expert institute" has come forward to risk their reputation on Dr. Phil McGraw. Why? I suspect that they were a party to the manipulation. To me, all the "confirmation" equates to is an extension of the investigation. Like someone saying "Wait" to the executioner, then sticking his head into the guillotine.

With Aloha,

Harry

Posted by: harry Author Profile Page at December 4, 2005 11:49 PM

Whether the interview is authentic or not. The bottom line is that we know the Kalpoe borthers and the Van Der Sloots (father and son) have done something to Natalee. Aruba without a doubt has a poor quality government and their police do a horrible job at getting the job done when it comes to a case like this. Can it be that Aruba will look bad knowing that thier OWN judge's son MAY HAVE killed an american. Aruba government has a lot of explaining to do or the aruban government will find itself in a fight between many angry americans. Aruba needs to stop being lazy and start being professional about finding this young and beautiful teenager.

Posted by: American-Soldier at December 5, 2005 12:26 AM

Dear Harry,
Thank you so much for the explanation. I apologise for being so dense but it is much clearer to me now.
I sincerely appreciate your patience and understnading, you're a sweetheart.

American Soldier, many Americans disagree with your definitive opinion that the suspect's "have done something to Natalee". I would venture to guess that most agree that they may "know something about what may have occurred in this situation" but I do not think most would go so far as to say they "MAY HAVE killed an American" nor do I think anyone is willing to turn this situation into a "state department nightmare". I am sure all Americans agree that Aruba should do everything in their power to find this young person and bring her home to her family.

Posted by: Little Bo Peep at December 5, 2005 1:15 AM

American Soldier, you have expressed exactly that what I was afraid off all along. Members of the American Public disgarding every piece of evidence that suggests that the Kalpoes and the Van der Sloots are innocent! Thanks to the American Media people are fed an opinion instead of facts! The Aruban Government is not lazy, they are continually slowed down by stupid people who make up false evidence and give false eye-witness accounts or simply refuse to give evidence! Thats why the investigation in to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway is going nowhere!

Posted by: Also_Dutch at December 5, 2005 1:47 AM

Whether the interview is authentic or not. The bottom line is that we know the Kalpoe borthers and the Van Der Sloots (father and son) have done something to Natalee. Aruba without a doubt has a poor quality government and their police do a horrible job at getting the job done when it comes to a case like this. Can it be that Aruba will look bad knowing that thier OWN judge's son MAY HAVE killed an american. Aruba government has a lot of explaining to do or the aruban government will find itself in a fight between many angry americans. Aruba needs to stop being lazy and start being professional about finding this young and beautiful teenager.

Posted by: American-Soldier at December 5, 2005 12:26 AM

Who is "we"? Please dont presume to speak for me, as in your "we". I have no clue, IF Joran, Deepak, or Satish did ANYTHING to Natalee, but give her a ride around the island, dropped Joran and her off at the beach. And Joran left her there. Deepak and Satish went home. They do have corraborating EVIDENCE that they went home. By Deepaks, computer and also from the cell phone calls to Deepak from Joran.

I also do not believe a country such as Aruba, would cover up a murder, or protect anyone for the sake of their island. It's ludicrous!

And BTW, for the RECORD, Paulus was NOT a judge. He failed the test...he never became a judge. He worked as a civil service employee. Nothing more, nothing less.

A judge from curraco, determined that there was NOT enough evidence, to hold any of the suspects, and then a 3 appelate judges from curaco, upheld the judges decision. Aruba didn't let these 3 boys out. Take it up with those JUDGES! The prosecutor fought for these 3 boys to still be detained. There is NOT sufficient EVIDENCE for these boys to be charged. If the prosecutor had EVIDENCE of a crime, she could STILL bring charges on them...and take this case to trial.

No one, can say for all certainty that Natalee is dead.

Posted by: Donna at December 5, 2005 11:02 AM

American Soldier, I respect your opinion also the lack of vision. IMO this is the result of the media transmission people is lazy to think for them. Regret to inform you, that as long as we are in other country we can see the Aruba has been blast with erroneous commentaries. They have done more than enough to search for this person. ARUBA is not responsible for the acts of the visitors. Just look Lady Di, UK did not boycott France because she died there. They have not found the guilty one. Now we are talking about a beautiful woman, worldwide known etc, … but thing happen.
In Canada, we are looking family Twitty, is taking advantage of a case and milking it to the end. Now you are saying about the ALE, look at your FBI , when are they going to react now is their baby the evidence was fabricated, lies here not a good job in the interrogating. ALE has to have permission to work in international territory, SO…
By the way Mr. Van Der Sloot his name is clear, remember in the USA: Innocent until proven guilty, this apply to them also. HIS name is clear. No evidence found against the J &K2, so be my guest, and do not take the media for granted.
Antoinette

Posted by: antoinette at December 5, 2005 11:05 AM

Ok..can someone help clear these "documents" that Beth, herself stated she "smuggled" out of the country of Aruba? She stated it right on Geraldo, even Geraldo ASKED to see these documents and she said she didn't have them on her, but he asked if she could get them to him, and her reply was "ok".

Even through out different shows, she has stated she had DOCUMENTs, signed by Joran, proof of him stating that he had sexually assaulted Natalee. She even had someone come out of the audience at Dr Phil show, to "read such a document".

Now on Abrams the other night, she stated that she ONLY had NOTES that she took, when her 2 aruban attorneys, translated documents for her. NOW how did these TWO attorneys get these "documents"? They are part of the investigation and NO attorney outside of either the prosecution or defense attorney FOR joran, deepak, or satish, would be allowed to have ANY documents..

She stated on Abrams on thursday night, that SHE wasn't ALLOWED to speak of those, yet she has been on TV every night, stating that SHE has those documents that PROVED GANG RAPE of her daughter.

This woman lies, with a straight face, to the American public. And she goes UNCHALLENGED!

Posted by: Donna at December 5, 2005 11:32 AM

Does anyone think that just maybe the Aruban government really does not want this case solved at all? Doing so could expose alot of dirt that the government would rather keep swept under the rug.

Posted by: jewels flem at December 5, 2005 12:01 PM

Dear American Soldier:

Are you really an American Soldier? If you are, then I hope the following enlightens you as for what you are fighting.

I was particularly captivated by your reference to the Aruban law enforcement personnel as lazy. A few months ago, on another blog, someone posted that the Alabama police forces only achieved an 18% crime resolution rate. Many posters were outraged! However, there were a few who took the time to rationalize the number. One in particular elaborated on how much work the Alabama police officers had to undertake just to achieve that 18%. As I researched this number, I discovered that Alabama was at or above the national average in the United States of America. Despite the appearance of a low resolution rate, Alabama bested most of the other states.

Just as a side note for all those who enjoy downgrading Aruba and advocating going to Hawaii instead, because the police in Hawaii actually investigate and solve crimes (like they do in the rest of America), the crime resolution rate, most recently reported, was 9.1%. Now, I cannot say that this is a terrible figure, because, I suppose there are states where the American police are not as fortunate.

Crime, essentially, goes unsolved in America. When we couple this low resolution rate with the questionable performance of our judiciary, strapped with overcrowded prisons and plea bargaining, our American ability to deter crime is no advertisement. The crooks and their lawyers far outwit our law enforcement (including our touted FBI) by leagues. Crimes does pay in America.

It is fortunate for America that we still can muster people, such as yourself, to defend our mirages of justice. Maybe, when you and your fellow servicemen return from your service overseas, you can return America to what it used to be. Our generation of the 60s has failed.

Perhaps, Aruba is far better equipped and motivated for law enforcement than any comparison in America. Watching this case unfold, I am certain of it.

With Aloha,

Harry
(SS)

Posted by: harry Author Profile Page at December 5, 2005 12:14 PM

Does anyone think that just maybe the Aruban government really does not want this case solved at all? Doing so could expose alot of dirt that the government would rather keep swept under the rug.

Posted by: jewels flem at December 5, 2005 12:01 PM

No. I don't. Actually I think the opposite would be true. They would want these people LOCKED up so they couldn't talk!

Think about it, IF Paulus has "dirt" on the corrupt government, he would of been kept in JAIL, they would of made up evidence to keep his mouth shut! OR "eliminated", accidents do happen, ya know. Put him in jail, so there would of been no way he would of spoken..same along the lines of his son, and his 2 friends.

Posted by: Donna at December 5, 2005 12:23 PM

At 18 years of age I was one scared little boy. Going to college in a town only 38 miles from my parents home was like moving to the other side of the world........or so it seemed. When I went on active duty for the military the Basic Training Military Facility was only 60 miles from my parents home and that to me at age 18 "seemed" like another planet and in the twilight zone for that matter.

My point: I don't think that NH ran away. She's female, 18 years old, a family oriented young lady, very involved with and faithful to her friends.

It just escapes me that she would dive off into the wilderness and run away. What would she have been running from? There's way too much danger out there for her to jump off into the unknown.

Someone mentioned that there are too many native girls from those islands [flesh havens] that will voluntarily engage in sexual jobs. Maybe so, but they really like the "white girls" from America.

Their clients are wealthy and spare no expense so possibly someone kidnapped NH because she is American and blonde.

There was a report from of the Aruban Newspaper Reporters who'd been following what he thought was NH. He stated that when he got close some helicopter or some cars would snatch this person and take her to another location. He has sighthed what he actually thought was NH.

He'd been doing this for about three months.

Things like this are a tragedy. Beth Twitty has lost a daughter and it's eating her inside. My mother lost a daughter, my sister, and I can see my mother deteriorating monthly.

I hope NH is found one way or the other. You all have a right to your opinion and I truly respect those opinions.

Posted by: dr_usa_23 at December 5, 2005 12:31 PM

It just escapes me that she would dive off into the wilderness and run away. What would she have been running from? There's way too much danger out there for her to jump off into the unknown.
Posted by: dr_usa_23 at December 5, 2005 12:31 PM

Been thinking about that and have come to the conclusion that the only thing that would make an 18 year old female run off would be her perception that she was pursing "true love". In that case, you might assume that the "significant other" would be involved in her 'running off" and she would not be alone. Since there is no evidence of this whatsoever it is merely "thinking out of the box".
Just disagree with everyone who wants her "dead and buried", cause, then if she is alive, everyone will cease searching for her. Remember Dr. Phil said how horrible is it for someone missing, possibly against their will, thinking noone is looking to save them. That is about the only point on which he and I agree.

Posted by: Little Bo Peep at December 5, 2005 1:03 PM

Whether the interview is authentic or not. The bottom line is that we know the Kalpoe borthers and the Van Der Sloots (father and son) have done something to Natalee.

Posted by: American-Soldier at December 5, 2005 12:26 AM


Here we go again ... American-Soldier, would you please provide some proof when it comes to a slanderous statement like this. Of course this would be difficult to do, as these suspects were released for LACK OF EVEIDENCE, simply meaning there IS NO PROOF they did anything to her.

It's a good thing that you're behind a keyboard saying this, for if you repeated this to their faces in front of a witness, you could be sued for slander.


Posted by: Jim Hanson at December 5, 2005 1:30 PM

Been thinking about that and have come to the conclusion that the only thing that would make an 18 year old female run off would be her perception that she was pursing "true love". In that case, you might assume that the "significant other" would be involved in her 'running off" and she would not be alone. Since there is no evidence of this whatsoever it is merely "thinking out of the box".
Just disagree with everyone who wants her "dead and buried", cause, then if she is alive, everyone will cease searching for her. Remember Dr. Phil said how horrible is it for someone missing, possibly against their will, thinking noone is looking to save them. That is about the only point on which he and I agree.

Posted by: Little Bo Peep at December 5, 2005 01:03 PM

If she ran off with the "love of her life" it explains why her mother, Beth, on her first appearance before Aruba television made a public appeal to Natalee: "Please call, we can talk about it",. It has been bothering me that this appeal has been disregarded or neglected all this time since Natalee's disappearance.

What was there to talk about?

Posted by: Tem at December 5, 2005 5:51 PM

Dear Tem:

Our Monday Evening Editorial will entertain just such a "true love" scenario!

With Aloha,

Harry

Posted by: harry Author Profile Page at December 5, 2005 8:01 PM

Donna, who says Paulus isn't corrupt himself? None of us know, do we? Just about everything regarding this case has been murky from the beginning, nothing black and white, so many clues and leads that never seemed to be followed up on or no public answers given to what we all thought could have been developments in the case. At times, it has just seemed, the Auban govt has been trying to keep things grey. I certainly don't know.

Posted by: jewels flem at December 5, 2005 9:15 PM

When I was reading this comment from Harry, I was thinking the following. This Skeeters knows a lot about questioning and polygraphing (is he not attached to the Californian Polygraphic Institute or something like that?)and allso knows a lot about computers, more than I do.

What you sometimes see is that people, after a while is a certian business of expertise, think they know everything and can lie to others, because of their imaginary superiority. Maybe, just guessing, Skeeters cashed in with the phoney tapes, because he knew or thaught to know, he would never get caught, because of the knowledge and credibilaty he has build for himself. A case of a mayor ego.

Just a thougt, greetings from Louiza

Posted by: Louiza at December 6, 2005 7:26 AM



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