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November 20, 2005

HarryTho 11/20 Natalee Holloway Update And Commentary

Topics: Natalee Holloway

As everyone has learned by now, we limit the number of posts on the weekend, to give us a little break from the busy schedule during the week (we post for several blogs, a couple of which are medical blogs). So tonight we'll recap a bit, along with a tidbit of some interesting news.

But first let's begin with a brief editorial. What I'd like to discuss is a difference in perception between the individuals of the "First World" and the "Third World," since the topic of "third world" legal systems has been discussed in comments to previous posts. Racheting down the focus on this discussion, I'd like to opine on varying perceptions of affluence with respect to the case of Natalee Holloway's disappearance.

Individuals, enjoying the educational and technological opportunities of the "First World," tend to assume individualistic personalities and perceptions of individualism. What I mean by this is that they perceive themselves as apart and distinct from their social groupings. In law, this perception transforms into a sense of individual guilt and innocence. Trials endeavor to uncover a particular guilty individual(s) or party.

As a caveat, it should be understood that not all "First World" individuals enjoy the same degree of educational and technological opportunities. But for the moment, let us say for the purpose of this discussion, at this time, that they share parity.

On the other hand, "Third World" individuals experience an overwhelming sense of desperation. Their lack of educational and technological opportunity relegates them to a group mentality. The group acts in solidarity in order to provide security and sustenance. The idea of individual guilt and innocence recedes into the background in favor of survival. When one confronts these groups with respect to infractions of accepted behavior, it is the group that responds and not one individual. The guilty individuals are able to immerse within the identity of the group. The group, aware of the necessity of the sought after individuals for their survival, will protect them.

Multiple examples abound of this behavior. One need only peruse the current "Third World" countries and their less fortunate groups. For those unfamiliar with the "Third World," one need only look at our American ghettos for confirmation.

With some racheting, we can differentiate the foregoing into an affluent class and a less fortunate class. The affluent class, regardless of country of origin: "First" or "Third World," will react to the issue of guilt or innocence in the manner described in the "First World" scenario. Whereas, the less fortunate class will react in a similar manner to the scenario described for the "Third World." A group mentality will form around less fortunate class individuals whenever they are oppressed or threatened.

In our current situation in the case of Natalee Holloway's disappearance, we find our First World law enforcement authorities engaged in a multi-class investigation. The main suspects evolve from a "First World" and a "Third World" environment. One suspect, Joran van der Sloot, presents all the "First World" perceptions that we would expect. Yet, the other two suspects, and associate suspects, respond in the manner of individuals from a less fortunate background immersed within a "First World" country. We have an insight here.

If the case comprised of "First World" or affluent class suspects, it would unfold as many "First World" investigators have predicted. It has not! This case eludes investigation. Why? We have a group mentality at work, protecting the culprits. The culprits are clearly individuals from the less fortunate class.

Although the discussion was limited to a surface introduction and proceeded without references, I believe, the kernel of concern for the case of Natalee Holloway's disappearance was extracted.

Hopefully, the foregoing discussion will be able to minimize the suspects in Natalee's disappearance.

Moving from opine to news, Aruba Getagrip posted on a Jossy Mansur piece from Friday, that claims due to the Natalee matter, more Arubans are encountering difficulties "to conduct business abroad."


As DIARIO presented last month, the 'anti-Aruban' sentiment continues to grow in the U.S. We showed how in Miami and Las Vegas, there was very ugly treatment against Arubans who are traveling for vacation or for business.

More and more Arubans are starting to identify themselves as "Bonerians" or "Curasoleños" when visiting an American city, because they don't want to lose time discussing the matter.

One of those in the U.S. who are helping in the boycott, Joe Mammana, even said that he will find any way to force American shipping companies from sending merchandise to Aruba.

This week it became known that an American distributor decided to stop its years-long business relationship in Aruba, as a protest of the manner in which the government handled the matter of Natalee Holloway.

It seems as if the whole world is of the opinion that the government of Aruba, as well as the Justice system of Aruba is good for nothing. They want a change to take place, otherwise this 'anti-Aruba movement' will continue.

We need to keep in mind that Jossy Mansur's Diario published this article. In response to Jossy, when Arubans start identifying themselves as Mansurs, I suspect, they will be shopping for whale refuse.

Next there's what we all knew was coming. It seems that the merchants in Aruba are upset over Dr. Phil's shenanigans, and are considering taking Dr. Phil to court in the U.S. They want to sue for "damaging their island's name," as though that is possible, given the publicity already accumulated over Natalee Holloway's disappearance, and other issues associated with certain folks on the island that we've covered previously, and don't need to readdress here.

Merchants in Aruba are upset
Arubans considering taking Dr. Phil to court in the U.S.
Want to sue for damaging our island's name

Thursday, on the Dr. Phil show, presented around the U.S. via syndication distributed by King World, the theme was "Sex Slaves".

In the beginning, as well as at the end of the show, Dr. Phil repeated his message for everyone to stop traveling to Aruba.

It is true that a DIARIO reporter kept quiet that he went to check one of the tips that Natalee is alive, but because he did not find confirmation ('hard facts') of this probability, he opted to not go public with it.

However on Thursday, Natalee's mother decided to divulge this to a big audience. Nevertheless, reporters continue to work on every detail and tip that is received.

The case of Amy Bradley also found a big spotlight on the Dr. Phil show, because it focused on young women that are abducted on other countries to be used as 'sex slaves'.

Dr. Phil even let a crew go to Curaçao and film the "Mirage" (formerly Campo Alegre) spy-video style, How did they do this, seeing that Mirage has their doors wide open to get coverage for their business? But Dr. Phil's show portrayed it as if it were a very hidden and 'secret' place, even though it is a place that even has a website to promote itself.

Some merchants are quite upset with the latest developments surrounding the case of Natalee Holloway, and expressed on Thursday that they are preparing a case against the complete production of Dr. Phil in the U.S.

This deals especially with the merchants whose business interests is that they do a lot of business with the U.S. The latest statements from this TV host is inflicting and continues to inflict damage to our island.

Thursday they were in contact with at least one very popular law firm in the U.S. in order to evaluate a possible lawsuit against Dr. Phil. It seems that the lawyers in the U.S. are convening to give the merchants from Aruba an answer about their questions if there is space for said lawsuit.

The lawsuit will be based on the fact that the name of Aruba is unfairly being dirtied, launching the whole economy of a country into trouble, without valid justification to do

Worse still, is when Dr. Phil on his own show insinuated that Natalee Holloway could possibly be in Cancun, Mexico. The question remains whether Natalee is not in Aruba, then how can he continue to promote a boycott against Aruba?

They also said that Mexico has slavery in the prostitution underworlds, and that would pay millions for Natalee Holloway, because she is a very popular young woman now...then how can Aruba be boycotted?

We are speaking here of a lawsuit which could run into the millions of American dollars if Aruba can prove that our economy and revenues of certain merchants go down because of the whole boycott which he is promoting against our island.

The intention is to look for more local merchants to lend a hand in the high cost of lawyers in the U.S. Many are thinking that if such a case would be worth it, then it has to be done to put some finality to the low manner in which the American press is treating our island, without giving us the chance to reply.

Along with the lawsuit against Dr. Phil, the Academy Awards should nominate Dr. Phil for the most ridiculous airing on TV this years.

Lastly, about that poll!

From AOL News - Poll: Most Alabama residents support Aruba boycott sparked by teen's disappearance:

Three-quarters of Alabama residents back the governor's call for a travel boycott of Aruba to protest the island's handling of the disappearance of teenager Natalee Holloway.
The poll, conducted by the Mobile Register and University of South Alabama and released Sunday, also found that seven out of 10 respondents would not travel to the Caribbean island even if they won a free trip.

Authorities in Aruba have reacted angrily to the call for a boycott. The U.S. State Department has refused to support a boycott, as have many travel groups.

The poll, which was taken Monday through Thursday by the USA Polling Group, surveyed 400 adult residents of Alabama. The results carry a margin of error of plus or minus 5 percentage points.

A poll of 400 residents of Alabama? I wonder where these residents came from .... Mountain Brook!

With that, we'll call it a night, and see everyone tomorow. Aloha!

Posted for HarryTho

Posted by Richard at November 20, 2005 8:58 PM

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Posted by: George at November 20, 2005 10:26 PM

"HyScience has gained almost 4,000 positions since yesterday, probably due to surfers repeatedly checking if "HarryTho 11/19 Natalee Holloway Update And Commentary" had ever come up. :-)"

Good call, George. I was about 50 of those hits, lol.

Go on strike for a couple of days, Harry, and watch the positions go through the roof!

Posted by: dayo at November 20, 2005 11:59 PM

I live in Alabama after living all over the United States most of my 40+ years and I am very Glad to to live somewhere where people are nice to you. They say Hello, Thank you, and are always there to help in any way they can. Alway smiling and friendly. I would not go to Aruba For any reason whatsoever. Boycott or not! Why would you want to go somewhere that nobody knows whats going on even the people who live there say that you have to be very cautious. Most of them look like they are hooked on drugs. It seems like you step on the island and land up in a Salvation Army Drug Rehab Center where everyones brains have been fried or they have all been backsliding regularly. The only people I can see wanting to go there are those who have a drug problem and are there for the party or a death wish.

Posted by: carol at November 21, 2005 10:28 AM

Worse still, is when Dr. Phil on his own show insinuated that Natalee Holloway could possibly be in Cancun, Mexico. The question remains whether Natalee is not in Aruba, then how can he continue to promote a boycott against Aruba?

It baffles me how u can twist n turn the story - she disappeared in ARUBA remember!!!!! Even a 5 year old kid can suss that out why the boycott is against aruba. You are promoting and siding the suspects too much that u have lost all sense of reality and therefore stoop to writing garbage!!!

Posted by: kiki at November 21, 2005 11:08 AM

Dear Carol & Kiki:

It is always a pleasure to have people from Alabama visit our site. It helps us to focus our perspective on the issues at hand. Welcome!

With Aloha,


Posted by: harry Author Profile Page at November 21, 2005 12:23 PM

Hmmmm hello - when people do not agree with what u say, u say they r from alabama. Helloooooooo, I am from Australia if u dont mind! I am quite capable (after reading all the sites on natalee holloway, even the ones in aruba) in forming my own opinion - thank u.

Posted by: kiki at November 21, 2005 12:54 PM

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