September 25, 2005
HarryTho Sunday Night Natalee Holloway UpdateTopics: Natalee Holloway
According to a television interview Joran van der Sloot admits that he lied about the last time he saw Natalee on the night she vanished, but he insists she was "fine." As the world knows, Joran van der Sloot was one of three men jailed this summer in Natalee Holloway's May 30 disappearance. He made the comment about her being drunk but the sex being consensual, to a producer for "A Current Affair" in Holland, where he is attending college, likely to in order to stay as far away from Aruba as possible. According to the AP, the interview is scheduled to air Monday.
Just how sex can be consensual if a woman is drunk and drifting in and out of consciousness apparently doesn't seem to enter into Joran's power to reason. And of course there's that little matter of just how we're suppose to know which story to believe.
Scared Monkeys isn't impressed either, and writes: "Earth to Joran, if someone is that drunk it can't be consensual. Remember the part about going in and out of consciousness? Please tell me that someone during this "Current Affair" interview is going to say the following: Joran, you have lied through your teeth about everything, including the night that you left Natalee Holloway off at the Holiday Inn....
And while Joran claims to have had consensual sex with Natalee while both were drunk, Riehl World View posts on Joran being a target for death. Update: Dan is also covering the admission by Joran that he lied...
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Posted by Richard at September 25, 2005 9:35 PM
IF Joran feels that the relations he had with Nat that night were CONSENUAL, he is MORE disturbed than any of us realize.Under USA law, anyone who takes advantage of a gal under a drugged or alcohol influence is buying a sure ticket to the "pokey." IF a child has no limits and is spoiled, as a young adult I honestly feel that they are in charge and that they set the rules, because they have not had any to follow.It disturbs me that Joran has been permitted to drink openly, although he was underage. He also gambled and had an open line of credit I understand at the Excelsior ? Is he held accountable for any of his actions, or does Joran makes the rules he wishes to follow ? Doing and taking what u feel u need or want are not acceptable. He displays NO evidence of having ANY integrity or boundaries.
Posted by: Stefani at September 25, 2005 11:12 PM
While following this case of Natalee's disappearance, a few anomalies of Aruban law have surfaced: First, it appears that the drinking age in Aruba is 16. Second, a suspect's confession is not convictable in and off itself. Accordingly, even though Joran has made statements, damaging to his defense, those statements require authentication. In the case of Natalee's questionable consciousness, we lack Natalee's appraisal of the situation. The defense in Aruba could contend that Joran's opinion of the situation was subjective and open to debate in terms of severity, putting into question the true status of Natalee's consciousness at the time of the sexual encounter.
Lastly, the issue of a line-of-credit, allegedly provided to Joran by the Excelsior Casino manager, has been challenged as untrue by the Excelsior Casino management.
I fear that much of our understanding of the case has been tainted by our media. Clearly, given the aggressive manner of the Aruban prosecutor, if she had anything on Joran and the Kalpoes, she would have them prosecuted and incarcerated.
Posted by: harry at September 26, 2005 12:14 AM
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