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February 7, 2005

THE PERFECT MURDER: Michael Schiavo Could Face Criminal Charges (Updated)

Topics: Terri Schiavo's Life Counts

(Update 1) The title of this post comes from the title of two articles that are referenced below. I am not accusing Michael Schiavo of attempting to murder his wife; if anything, I would accuse Michael of making an awful mistake, and then compounding it by refusing to provide Terri an opportunity to live and recover to the extent that she can.

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The story is already breaking so it's time for blogs to get involved. This is not a Hyscience story, it is an Internet story that online journals and blogs are carrying back to the MSM. The MSM has a proven track record of not following through on this story. A groundswell is needed to save Terri's life. Court documents have experts testifying that Terri could be rehabilitated. Presently she is living in a room with the shades drawn and all personal possessions removed from the room - no stimulus allowed per Michael Schiavo. Michael Schiavo has an interest in seeing to it that Terri never be able to tell what happened that night (2 A.M.). This story must stay out in front until the MSM runs with it - and thereafter. Terri deserves to live, not die at the hands of an abusive (updated - alleged) tyrant (updated - spouse).

...There are an extensive number of focal abnormal areas of nuclide accumulation of intense type. These include, multiple bilateral ribs, the costovestebral aspects of several of the thoracic vestebral bodies, the L1 vestebral body, both sacrolliac joints, the distal right femoral diaphysis, both knees, and both ankles, right greater than left.

... Correlative radiographs are obtained of the lumber spine and of the right femur which reveal compression fracture, minor, superior end plate of L1 and shaggy irregular periosteal ossification along the distal femoral diaphysis and metaphysis primarily ventrally. The patient has a history of trauma, most likely the femoral periosteal reaction reflects a response to a subperiosteal hemorrhage and the activity in L1 correlates perfectly with the compression fracture which is presumably traumatic.

... The presumption is that the other multiple areas of abnormal activity also relate to previous trauma...

(Source) Bone scan on Terri Schiavo March 5, 1991 - not discovered until 2002, then took time to work through and begin further testimony!
(among a number of documents that I will be releasing electronically as soon as they are digitized - expected soon)

There is one problem with this report. Teri has no known history of trauma, unless it occurred while living with Michael. Michael Schiavo is 6'6" tall and weighs 250 pounds. Terri Schiavo was at the time, 5'3" and weighed  115-120 lbs. That wouldn't be much of a fair fight that morning around 2 A.M. when Michael came home from work. The next few posts will discuss documented court testimony of Terri's fear of Michael and her desire for a divorce, along with other important and related medical and psychiatric information.

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As Pinellas County Circuit Judge George Greer deliberates whether he will allow attorneys to proceed with arguments that brain-disabled Terri Schiavo's right to due process was violated, a media source is claiming that Michael Schiavo could face criminal charges.

New York's Empire Journal is calling on the Florida judicial system to impanel a Grand Jury to investigate foul play as a cause of Terri Schiavo's brain damage.

"One of the most compelling reasons to impanel a grand jury into the matter is the opinion issued by Dr. Michael Baden, renowned forensic pathologist, author of three books on forensic pathology," the Journal authors write.

The Empire Journal authors outline the evidence stated by Dr. Baden, including results of a bone scan done in 1991 that revealed "other injuries, other bone fractures that are in the healing stage."

"Baden noted that she had the bone scan done in 1991 at a rehabilitation facility that describes her as having a head injury, 'That's why she's there, that's why she's getting a bone scan,' Baden [said], because she has a head injury,'" the Journal authors explained.

Terri Schiavo's estranged husband claims her collapse and brain damage was a result of potassium imbalance leading to heart failure that left her brain damaged. Baden "said he wasn't suggesting that a potassium imbalance had caused a fall that led to a head injury or some pre-existing head injury which could have led to her passing out."

"Baden said that the injuries sustained by Terri Schiavo could have happened from 'some kind of trauma. The trauma could be from an auto accident, the trauma could be from a fall, or the trauma could be from some kind of beating that she obtained from somebody somewhere. It's something that should have been investigated in 1991."

Terri Schiavo's estranged husband, Michael Schiavo, has been battling in the courts with Terri's parents to have her feeding tube removed -- that she be killed. In the event of Terri's death, Michael stands to inherit what remains of a one-million-dollar insurance payout granted for Terri Schiavo's ongoing rehabilitation. He resides with another woman, with whom he has had two children.

Last Friday, Judge Greer gave the Schindlers' attorney David Gibbs until February 7 to submit written legal arguments arguing that Terri's due process rights were neglected because she has never had her own attorney to represent her. Greer said he would decide within the following three days whether he would allow Gibbs's motion to proceed.

Post Script:  It has been documented that Michael had rages of anger and would use his physical stature to bully people. (more coming)

Florida Officials Must Impanel Grand Jury on Alleged Schiavo Abuse

Florida DOH Destroyed Records after Schiavo Doctor Cleared Of Wrongdoing Following Investigation

David Allen Jared's Op-ed "Terri Schiavo's Murder [Part

PREVIOUS HYSCIENCE POST - HERE.

UPDATE 2: I have advised that I will be able to post one of the digitized books. The digitized version I have is not completely updated but I will post it here tomorow or hopefully sometime tomorow night. Also, for those of you who would like to put the "terrisfight.org banner on your site, it is available at the site - but the code is here:

Also, there is a lot of information available at Terrisfight.org.

Posted by Hyscience at February 7, 2005 6:58 PM

Can you put links to your previous posts on Terri Schiavo in this post, or set up a category where they can all be listed at once?

I know, I'm a pain in the butt. ;-)

Posted by: Beth at February 7, 2005 7:48 PM

OK, I'm blind. I see you have categories already!

Posted by: Beth at February 7, 2005 7:52 PM

Proof! Proof! Proof! ... I get quite annoyed when there's a lot of assumptions and no proof. Even if she does have damage due to a cranial impact it cannot be proven that it was 100% due to a beating and that it was "without a reasonable doubt" her husband who did it.

Witnessed rages, while admissable and proof that someone is capable of getting angry, do not prove that he acted on the rage and physically assaulted people.

Also you're quick sentence that he is living with another woman that he has two kids with seems like a sly way of characterizing him as "a creep" or "immoral" or "guilty" because his wife is still "alive".

I'm interested to see what more you have here with these next entries.

Posted by: Digger at February 7, 2005 8:22 PM

I understand your complaint that all we've presented yet is circumstantial evidence- but there's enough of it to reach a conviction under a more reasonable judge.
I was with you in demanding proof, and I've been told that proof does exist, but it remains sealed by the courts. If what the courts have sealed doesn't amount to proof, maybe they should unseal it and show us.
Another good idea would be to offer some tangible evidence that would explain how Terri could possibly have sustained multiple fractures from her ribs to her ankles, endured trauma to her neck, and had her mental capacity significantly altered, all within the same four month period, especially since the emergency room that admitted her, conclusively ruled out the possibility that any heart attack had occured. (Her blood chemistry did not contain the elevated enzyme levels present in all heart attack patients.)
It would also be good to explain why Michael Schiavo sued for medical malpractice, and was awarded $2 million dollars specifically for the purpose of Terri's rehabilitation, four months before he demanded that all her rehabilitive treatment be stopped, and five years before he remembered that she would not want to be kept alive by artificial means.
And we would need to know why, when Terri's nutrition and hydration tube was removed, in October, 2003, no one was allowed to offer Terri food orally, when it is clear that she can swallow, by the fact that she handles all of her own saliva.
Until these obvious discrepancies are sufficiently and truthfully explained, conscience requires us to call for an investigation.

Posted by: Merideth at February 10, 2005 12:48 AM

While witnessed incidents of rage, and living with another woman don't exactly make a man a murderer, they don't help his statements to qualify as clear and convincing evidence that a woman would want to die, either.

Posted by: Merideth at February 10, 2005 12:51 AM

pc93 reporting!

FOR LOCAL AND NON-LOCAL (GLOBAL) DISTRIBUTION:

Here is the Terri Schindler-Schiavo Life Ribbon Desktop Logo with
instructions on how to get it on your screen. Also contains an exhortation to the Florida House Representatives and Senators of the FL Senate as well as
contact numbers of officials to call, including links to The Empire Journal, terrisfight.org and Free Republic, etc.:

http://www.enlightenment-engine.net/eeng/ribbon/terriliferibbondesktoplogo.zip

Here is a flyer for Terri that can be printed out and distributed:

http://www.enlightenment-engine.net/eeng/ribbon/terriflyer.pdf


Here is html code if you have a webpage and would like to participate in the Terri Schindler-Schiavo Life Ribbon Campaign besides the above of having a
Terri Life Ribbon on your own computer:

Copy and paste the following text into your HTML web page code where you want the Terri Schindler Life Ribbon banner to appear:


Join the Terri Schindler Life Ribbon Campaign!

If instead you simply want to have the Terri Schindler Life Ribbon appearing on your web page then use this code:

(see code page on Life Ribbon site listed below)


Terri Schindler Life Ribbon Campaign


(see code page on Life Ribbon site listed below)


Terri Schindler-Schiavo Life Ribbon Campaign:


Google -> Life Ribbon

or:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm

Juan V Schoch - Lake Mary, FL
Concerned Florida Resident / United States Citizen who believes Terri should be provided protection, removed from out of the hands of those trying to kill
her via substituted (hearsay) wishes, and who believes she should be placed back on the road to her recovery via rehabilitation and therapy, etc. as well as

into the hands of her loved ones, etc.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333205/posts

Florida House Could Impeach Schiavo Judge

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1342344/posts?page=1#1

Posted by: Juan Schoch at February 14, 2005 1:53 AM

PROOF? Duh, if he didn't want her dead he'd just hand her over to her parents as they wish. He wants her dead to cover it up. And with all that medical evidence, etc....Yup, he did it. His goal is to MAKE HER DIE so she can never talk. It's obvious...or he'd just hand her over to someone who cares for her.

Posted by: zholyrebel at February 25, 2005 10:37 AM

Please, no flames, this is just a question. If her parents believe that Michael Schiavo is responsible for getting Terri into this state, why haven't her parents tried to bring charges against him or get a restraining order? If someone tried to hurt my daughter that is what I would have done, long ago. Has this already been attempted and failed? I'm confused on this point and hope someone can help me.

Posted by: Jennifer Cannon at March 22, 2005 2:18 PM

I just read that her parents after discovering the bone density scan results went to the police who then refused to get involved. Evidently they did try. Michael had all of her medical records sealed by the court. This whole thing is fishy.

Posted by: MarineMomII at March 23, 2005 3:59 PM

ALL WE CAN SAY IN CALIFORNIA IS:

YOU CAN THANK MICHAEL SHIAVO, GEORGE FELOS AND JUDGE GREER FOR DESTROYING SINGLE HANDEDLY YOU RETIREMENT INDUSTRY.

ALSO, WHICH ONE LOOKS LIKE GEORGE WALLACE IN THE 1963 CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT BLOCKING THE DOOR TO THE SCHOOLS?

GEORGE FELOS OR JUDGE GREER?


WILL SOMEONE SHOW GREER, SHIAVO AND FELOS TO THE EDGE OF TOWN PLEASE? I DO BELIEVE THERE IS A WAGON WAITIN TO TAKE THEM TO THE INSTITUTION FOR THE CRIMINALLY INSANE.


CALIFORNIA

Posted by: MICHELE CHANEY at March 24, 2005 2:14 PM

If what Michael Schiavo is doing to his wife is considered by many as murder, wouldn't it be considered self-defense of poor Terri to do whatever means is necessary to Michael to protect her from this evil, evil man?

Should an unfortunate accident happen to Michael, would Terri's family automatically take over control of her situation?

Posted by: John Searcy at March 24, 2005 8:04 PM

Greetings,
I beleive that the life of Terri Schiavo must be defended by any means necessary. The silence of feminist regarding this matter is deafining.
Eric

Posted by: Eric at March 26, 2005 4:00 PM

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SCHIAVO INVESTIGATION FINDS NO EVIDENCE OF CRIME (BY HER PARENTS)
Clearwater Police Department ^ | 05-14-04 | Clearwater Police Department


Posted on 05/14/2004 2:36:09 PM PDT by phenn


NEWS RELEASE

For Immediate Release May 14, 2004

INVESTIGATION FINDS NO EVIDENCE OF CRIME

Clearwater Police Criminal Investigations Detectives concluded today an expansive and detailed investigation into suspicions that physical harm done with criminal intent had been visited upon a 40-year-old woman under the care of Hospice in Clearwater.

The investigation found no evidence of harm, injury or violation as the result of a criminal act, said Police Chief Sid Klein.

The Hospice patient, Mrs. Theresa M. Schiavo, was the subject of investigative, forensic and medical scrutiny after concern was expressed for her well-being on March 29, 2004.

At about 3:30 that Monday afternoon - as Mrs. Schiavo's feeding regimen commenced - a Hospice employee noticed some marks on Mrs. Schiavo's arms, and shared her observations with a Hospice supervisor at the Park Place assisted living facility, 2750 Drew Street. Concerns were heightened by the position of a plastic hospital bracelet on Mrs. Schiavo's forearm; the positioning of a plastic feeding tube wrapped around the chair in which she was sitting; and the discovery of a small, purple medical apparatus, initially described as a "needle cap."

(The lavender object, manufactured by a New York medical supply company called Qosina, is not a hypodermic needle cap, but rather a hollow, open-ended polypropylene "catheter syringe tip adapter" - called a Luer, part # 41501 - and is used as a plastic tubing connector in medical feeding and irrigation setups; it has no application for injection).

The Hospice supervisor notified Mrs. Schiavo's husband, Michael, who called his attorney and his wife's physician, Dr. Stanton Tripodis. The physician examined Mrs. Schiavo at Park Place, and authorized her transfer to Mease Hospital in Dunedin for an examination. Various procedures, including toxicology tests for the presence of unauthorized drugs, proved negative, and Mrs. Schiavo was returned to Hospice care.

Clearwater Police Detectives conducted numerous interviews with family members, physicians, Hospice employees and others. The Mease Hospital attending physician found nothing untoward about the marks on Mrs. Schiavo's arm, nor did her personal physician. Neither physician quantified the marks on her upper arm as evidence of an injection; the origin of these specific marks is undetermined.

Although Detectives cannot say conclusively what caused the other marks, it's believed they could have been the result of a apparatus called a "Hoyer Lift," used to move a patient from a reclining position on a bed to a sitting position in a chair.

The plastic hospital bracelet, a rigid band of plastic, may have worked itself up her forearm toward her elbow since Mrs. Schiavo's arms are often contracted upward.

The feeding tube and its position was examined by Hospice employees when concerns were initially expressed, and subsequently by investigators: there was no indication of leakage; detectives found no indication of intentional manipulation; the monitor warning alarm was never activated, nor was the feeding ever interrupted.

Detectives identified the lavender piece of plastic found in Mrs. Schiavo's clothes as a tubing connector, and had an independent company (National Medical Services of Willow Grove, Pennsylvania) conduct chemical and gas examinations of swabs taken from the Luer adapter. The test results were negative for foreign substances.

The Clearwater Police Department found no evidence of criminal activity, no indication of attempted criminal activity, and no harm done to Mrs. Schiavo. The investigation has concluded.

All inquiries regarding this investigation should be directed to Public Information Officer Wayne Shelor at (727) 562-4333.

/s/ SID KLEIN Chief of Police


(Excerpt) Read more at clearwaterpolice.com ...


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To: T'wit
I don't know if it is false or not - but if it is false, "It was a crime that damaged Terri's brain initially" would certainly be defamatory. Falsely accusing one of causing a life-threatening injury to their spouse would be per se defamatory. That's why I suggested qualifying the statement as one of opinion or speculation.
Even your cited evidence does not support the charge. The bone scan may show some kind of injury, but it does not show how it occurred.

Don't be so sensitive. It was not an accusation, it was a heads up. As in, if Michael Schiavo wanted to sue you for falsely accusing him of a crime, he could. And to assert truth as a defense, you'd have to prove the crime. Not the injury, mind you, but the crime.


54 posted on 05/15/2004 8:44:31 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: phenn
ST PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT

INCIDENT
90-024846

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Report Title: CALL FOR ASSISTANCE
Occurred: SUN 02/25/1990 05:40 To:
Call Received:
Dispatched: 02/25/1990 06:11 Arrived: 06:33 Completed: 08:55
Incident Address.: 12201 9 ST N Apt/Unit: 2210
City.:ST PETERSBURG State: FLORIDA Zip: 33716
Census Tract: 0462 Zone: 23 Dist: 2 Area:


------------------------------------ PERSONS -----------------------------------


Relationship: WITNESS Type: OTHER
Name.: SCHIAVO, THERESA MARIE W/F Dob: 12/03/1963 Age: 39 Aprx Age: 26
Occupation: FIELD SERVICE RBP.
Address: 12201 9 ST N Apt/Unit: 2210 City: ST PETERSBURG
State: FLORIDA Zip: 33716 Home Phone: 813-577-0012
Employer: PRUDENTIAL INS./SEMINOLE Work Phone: 813-391-2410
Synopsis:


Relationship: WITNESS Type: OTHER
Name.: SCHIAVO, MICHAEL RICHARD W/M Dob: 04/03/1963 Age: 40 Aprx Age: 26
Occupation: GENERAL MANAGER
Address: 12201 9 ST N Apt/Unit: 2210 City: ST PETERSBURG
State: FLORIDA Zip: 33716 Home Phone: 813-577-0012
Employer: AGOSTINOS RISTORANTE/CLRWTR Work Phone: 813-573-2040
Synopsis: FOUND WIFE UNCONSCIOUS ON FLOOR/CALLED PARAMEDICS


----------------------------------- EVIDENCE -----------------------------------

Processed: NO By: Photos: NO Prints: NO

-------------------------------- ADMINISTRATION --------------------------------

Officerl: BREWER, PHILLIP R #: 24914 Unit: Date: 02/25/1990
Officer2: TOWER, RODNEY L #: 28194 Unit:
-Route...: HOMICIDE
Sao.....: N/A Date: Division:
Clearance: Exception: Cl. Date: 02/25/1990
Supervisor: CHAPMAN, GEORGE B RET #:11657
Approved By: #:24914

----------------------------------- NARRATIVE ----------------------------------


**** This investigation was originally conducted by myself and
then-probationary officer Rodney Tower. The date of the investigation was
February 25, 1990. The report was typed and uploaded into the Police
Information computer system by me at the end of that shift. The report was
transferred to microfilm some time ago and is no longer stored in P.I.


ST. PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT PAGE 1


ST. PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT 90-024846

Similarly, no entry exists in the P.I. system that this report was ever
generated or uploaded. The quality of the microfilm onto which the report was
transferred has degenerated; the report can be read on the microfilm screen
but it is largely unreadable in printed form. Due to the circumstances of
this case, I have reproduced the report in its entirety so the record can be
preserved. This new entry is absolutely accurate as to the content of the
narrative, which could be easily read on the microfilm screen. The captions
are also easily readable on the microfilm screen and they, too, were
reproduced accurately as to content. Only small, technical aspects of the
captions are different because the report writing format has changed since
1990. The date and times listed in the first and last captions reflect the
date and times recorded during the original investigation, not the date and
times this report was reproduced, which was Wednesday, October 22, 2003.
Below is the narrative as it was written on February 25, 1990. ****

=============================================================================


WRITER RESPONDED TO THE ABOVE ADDRESS IN REFERENCE TO PARAMEDICS NEEDING
ASSISTANCE ON A MEDICAL EMERGENCY.

UPON ARRIVAL, WRITER SPOKE WITH FIREFIGHTER/PARAMEDIC J. RADJESKI. HE STATED
HE RESPONDED TO THE ADDRESS FOR A MEDICAL EMERGENCY. THEY FOUND A SUBJECT IN
QUESTION (THERESA) LYING FACE DOWN AND UNCONSCIOUS HALFWAY IN AND HALFWAY OUT
OF A BATHROOM. SHE WAS UNRESPONSIVE THE ENTIRE TIME AND WAS TRANSPORTED TO
HUMANA NORTHSIDE HOSPITAL BY SUNSTAR MEDIC ONE AMBULANCE #328 (J. CAMPBELL AND
J. EISENBRANDT). SHE WAS FOUND WITH HER HEAD FACING EAST OUT INTO A HALLWAY
AND HER FEET AND LEGS POINTING WEST ON THE BATHROOM FLOOR. HE STATED SHE
SHOWED NO OUTWARD SIGNS OF VIOLENCE. THE POLICE WERE CALLED BECAUSE OF HER
AGE AND BECAUSE THE SITUATION SEEMED UNUSUAL.

WRITER FOUND NOTHING UNUSUAL INSIDE THE APARTMENT. THERE WERE NO SIGNS OF A
STRUGGLE OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD INDICATE A CRIME HAD BEEN COMMITTED. VARIOUS
BOTTLES OF PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION WERE PRESENT IN THE KITCHEN; HOWEVER, ONLY
TWO WERE PRESCRIBED TO THERESA.

WRITER SECURED THE APARTMENT AND BROUGHT THE KEYS TO THE HOSPITAL. WRITER
SPOKE WITH THERESA'S HUSBAND (MICHAEL) WHO STATED HE WAS AWAKENED THIS MORNING
WHEN HE HEARD A THUD. HE THOUGHT HIS WIFE HAD FALLEN DOWN AND GOT UP TO CHECK
ON HER. HE FOUND HER UNCONSCIOUS ON THE FLOOR AND CALLED PARAMEDICS.

MICHAEL STATED HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT COULD BE WRONG WITH THERESA. THERE
HAVEN'T BEEN ANY PROBLEMS AT HOME WHICH WOULD LEAD TO HER WANTING TO TRY
SUICIDE AND THEY HAVE HAD NO MAJOR ARGUMENTS LATELY. SHE IS ALLERGIC TO
CERTAIN ITEMS BUT KNOWS WHAT NOT TO INGEST. SHE DOESN'T HAVE A HISTORY OF
HEART DISEASE. SHE HAS HAD RECENT "FEMALE" PROBLEMS AND IS SEEING HER
GYNECOLOGIST ON A REGULAR BASIS. SHE HAS BEEN TIRED LATELY AND NOT FEELING
WELL.

WHEN WRITER OBSERVED THERESA SHE WAS STILL UNCONSCIOUS AND ON A RESPIRATOR.
MEDICAL PERSONNEL ADVISED THAT SHE WAS UNRESPONSIVE UPON ARRIVAL. A DRUG
SCREEN REVEALED NO AMOUNTS OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS PRESENT IN HER SYSTEM AND HER
BLOOD ALCOHOL LEVEL MEASURED AT "LESS THAN 10", WHICH A NURSE DESCRIBED AS
BEING THE BOTTOM OF THE SCALE. A PHYSICAL INSPECTION BY WRITER ALSO REVEALED


ST. PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT PAGE 2


ST. PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMSNT 90-024846

NO SIGNS OF TRAUMA TO HER HEAD OR FACE.

WRITER REMAINED AT THE HOSPITAL FOR THE OUTCOME OF THE CAT SCAN. THE SCAN
REVEALED NO "MID-LINE SHIFT" OF THE BRAIN WHICH WOULD INDICATE AN OBVIOUS
ABNORMALITY. ADDITIONAL TESTING IS NECESSARY TO DETECT A POSSIBLE ANEURYSM
OR PULMONARY EMB0LISM.

WRITER GAVE MICHAEL A BUSINESS CARD WITH THE OFFENSE NUMBER. HE WAS TOLD THAT
WRITER WOULD CALL FOR AN UPDATE OF HER CONDITION AND NO FURTHER ACTION WAS
TAKEN.

EOR

ST. PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT PAGE 3

55 posted on 05/15/2004 2:06:12 PM PDT by pc93
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To: lugsoul; T'wit
As in, if Michael Schiavo wanted to sue you for falsely accusing him of a crime, he could. And to assert truth as a defense, you'd have to prove the crime.
I wouldn't worry too much about Michael suing. That would mean all the evidence he is suppressing would have to be brought out and looked at in the light of day.


56 posted on 05/15/2004 2:42:27 PM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (The right to die? or the right to be killed - http://www.life-or-death-decisions.org)
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To: iowamomforfreedom
Todays message to the media, politicians, and also to both the informed and ignorant populace:
To those of you who say this is a right-to-die matter or politics, or I'm a
religious nut I say poppycock, just try to pigeon hole me.

There is no right to attempt or accomplish murder on the innocent disabled
regardless if apparently sanctioned by the State, if this happens again re:
Terri Schindler Schiavo the State will be complicit in continued attempted
murder attempts. There are laws against mercy killing and Terri doesn't need
mercy.. she needs rehabilitation and deserves to be brought to full capacity
at the earliest possible time which she has continually been denied.

Read the depositions, statements in court and on national television of
Michael Schiavo regarding the evening/morning of Terri's collapse then look
at the police report of how the paramedics found Terri face down on the
floor. Also see Michael's statements that he will continue in his attempts
to take care of Terri (how could anyone read this any different then that he
will continue in his attempts to kill Terri) even if the courts rule against
him. Terri deserves protective custody from the State of Florida and
guardianship under Michael Schiavo needs to be removed:

Police report, statements of Michael, etc.:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1131600/posts?page=350#350

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1125603/posts?page=34#34

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1135763/posts?page=55#55

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1120621/posts?page=261#261

Interesting timeline:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/my/comments?more=56265851

Some depositions of Michael:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1108693/posts?page=117#117

This doesn't take a rocket scientist: You do not sit comatose or people in
PVS up in a chair but you do sit up disabled people in chairs. The media,
politicians, populace of the United States of America needs to quit being
misinformed and ignorant of the disabled and needs to stop torturing and
killing the disabled merely because they are disabled or because someone
(someone who to all intents and purposes is continuing in their attempts to
commit murder) says they said they wouldn't want to live like that.

Sincerely,

Juan V Schoch

Concerned Florida Resident

United States Citizen

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A statement was released on Friday, May 14th by the Clearwater Police
Department stating that they found NO evidence of criminal activity, NO
indication of attempted criminal activity, and no harm done to Mrs. Schiavo,
stating that the investigation has concluded.

The police report also included that the two aides who were on duty on the
day the incident happened, had told the nurse on duty that the marks on
Terri's arm were on her arm before the Schindler's had visited that day.

The charge nurse who had called Michael to report the marks, had told
Michael Schiavo that the aides had reported that the marks were there before
Bob and Mary had visited.

The police detective also had found other caps such as the one that was
reported by attorney George Felos of Dunedin, Florida as suspicious, in
other enteral irrigation tubing packaging.

Last evening after 47 days of the Schindler's not being permitted to see
their daughter, the Schindler's excitedly drove to Park Place to be reunited
with Terri.

Upon their arrival, the nurse rang Michael Schiavo to ask if it was okay for
the Schindler's to go in to see their daughter. Michael Schiavo told the
nurse to tell them "No".

Although no criminal activity was concluded, it appears that the Schindler's
are now forced to wait and see their daughter until a decision is made on
the 26th of May when an emergency hearing is scheduled to be heard in Judge
Greer's court for restoration of visitation.


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For 47 days, including Mother's Day... the Schindler Family have been denied
access to their daughter for an alleged incident that turned out to be
nothing better than a hoax. Michael Schiavo and George Felos have created a
situation in which they forcibly isolated Terri Schindler-Schiavo from her
family. This was done on false accusations that they had caused harm to
their own daughter. In a press release dated March 29th, George Felos of
Dunedin, Florida all but accused Terri's parents of injecting her and
inflicting puncture wounds on her arm:

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/03/30/Tampabay/Doctors_examine_Schia.shtml

As you will read in the following
official press release from the Clearwater Police Department these charges
are false and unsubstantiated.

Decide for yourself what the motives were.

CHERYL FORD RN
FIGHT4TERRI@AOL.COM


Here is the Clearwater Police News Release

NEWS RELEASE

For Immediate Release
May 14, 2004

INVESTIGATION FINDS NO EVIDENCE OF CRIME

Clearwater Police Criminal Investigations Detectives concluded today an
expansive and detailed investigation into suspicions that physical harm done
with criminal intent had been visited upon a 40-year-old woman under the
care of Hospice in Clearwater.

The investigation found no evidence of harm, injury or violation as the
result of a criminal act, said Police Chief Sid Klein.

The Hospice patient, Mrs. Theresa M. Schiavo, was the subject of
investigative, forensic and medical scrutiny after concern was expressed for
her well-being on March 29, 2004.

At about 3:30 that Monday afternoon - as Mrs. Schiavo's feeding regimen
commenced - a Hospice employee noticed some marks on Mrs. Schiavo's arms,
and shared her observations with a Hospice supervisor at the Park Place
assisted living facility, 2750 Drew Street. Concerns were heightened by the
position of a plastic hospital bracelet on Mrs. Schiavo's forearm; the
positioning of a plastic feeding tube wrapped around the chair in which she
was sitting; and the discovery of a small, purple medical apparatus,
initially described as a "needle cap."

(The lavender object, manufactured by a New York medical supply company
called Qosina, is not a hypodermic needle cap, but rather a hollow,
open-ended polypropylene "catheter syringe tip adapter" - called a Luer,
part # 41501 - and is used as a plastic tubing connector in medical feeding
and irrigation setups; it has no application for injection).

The Hospice supervisor notified Mrs. Schiavo's husband, Michael, who called
his attorney and his wife's physician, Dr. Stanton Tripodis. The physician
examined Mrs. Schiavo at Park Place, and authorized her transfer to Mease
Hospital in Dunedin for an examination. Various procedures, including
toxicology tests for the presence of unauthorized drugs, proved negative,
and Mrs. Schiavo was returned to Hospice care.

Clearwater Police Detectives conducted numerous interviews with family
members, physicians, Hospice employees and others. The Mease Hospital
attending physician found nothing untoward about the marks on Mrs. Schiavo's
arm, nor did her personal physician. Neither physician quantified the marks
on her upper arm as evidence of an injection; the origin of these specific
marks is undetermined.

Although Detectives cannot say conclusively what caused the other marks,
it's believed they could have been the result of a apparatus called a "Hoyer
Lift," used to move a patient from a reclining position on a bed to a
sitting position in a chair.

The plastic hospital bracelet, a rigid band of plastic, may have worked
itself up her forearm toward her elbow since Mrs. Schiavo's arms are often
contracted upward.

The feeding tube and its position was examined by Hospice employees when
concerns were initially expressed, and subsequently by investigators: there
was no indication of leakage; detectives found no indication of intentional
manipulation; the monitor warning alarm was never activated, nor was the
feeding ever interrupted.

Detectives identified the lavender piece of plastic found in Mrs. Schiavo's
clothes as a tubing connector, and had an independent company (National
Medical Services of Willow Grove, Pennsylvania) conduct chemical and gas
examinations of swabs taken from the Luer adapter. The test results were
negative for foreign substances.

The Clearwater Police Department found no evidence of criminal activity, no
indication of attempted criminal activity, and no harm done to Mrs. Schiavo.
The investigation has concluded.

All inquiries regarding this investigation should be directed to Public
Information Officer Wayne Shelor at (727) 562-4333.
/s/
SID KLEIN
Chief of Police

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Whoever said that "Crime doesn't pay" didn't live in our times.
MOM MUST PAY ADMISSION TO SEE HER DAUGHTER?

This is Terri's 47th day of forced isolation from her parents, siblings,
priest, those who love her and her 1492nd day confined to just a single
small room by Hospice of the Florida Suncoast (give or take a few days
of having to be in the hospital from neglect and almost being
dehydrated/starved to death).

Just when you thought the bottom of the barrel was being reached. now there
is a fax from Michael Schiavo's attorney Deborah Bushnell that the
Schindlers could be permitted to visit their daughter if they pay for an off
duty police officer to accompany them (arranged by Deborah Bushnell & Co. of
course):

Deborah A. Bushnell
Attorney
204 Scotland Street
Dunedin, FL 34698
Phone: (727)733-9064


By Facsimile: (727) 898-4903

May 06, 2004

Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
447 Third Avenue N., Suite 405
St. Petersburg, FL 33701

Re: Schiavo, Theresa - #1834 -Guardianship

Dear Pat:

I received your fax dated May 4, 2004.

We inquired of Hospice as to whether they would allow their
security officers to be in the room during Robert and Mary
Schindlers' visitation. To date, we have not received their
consent to this arrangement, and it does not seem likely that
such an arrangement can be made with them in the near future.

In the interim, the Schindlers may visit Terri in the presence
of a security officer. However, we would have to make private
security options. If your clients are agreeable to paying the
cost of such supervision, please let us know, and we will
follow up to make arrangements for the visitation and let you
know the cost.


Sincerely,


Deborah A. Bushnell


cc Michael Schiavo
George J. Felos, Esq.
Scott P. Swope, Esq.

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Terri is denied any extensive/comprehensive range of motion therapy or any
kind of therapies that could make her better. Terri is not terminal yet
Michael Schiavo is trying hard to make it so. AHCA's April 1st investigation
didn't see anything wrong with Terri's teeth yet shortly after their
investigation 5 teeth were completely removed from her mouth, with no
restorative work considered. How could the AHCA not have noticed anything
wrong? The surveyors notes of this investigation are a must read. They show
to what lengths Hospice of Florida Suncoast, Michael Schiavo, etc. are going
to deceive investigators to cover up the fraud and criminal neglect they are
committing upon Terri, the people of Florida, United States and the world.
The AHCA appears to be complicit in aiding and abetting these crimes.
AHCA is committing fraud and I have the proof. These Chapter 119 documents
are available upon request to pc93@bellsouth.net

There is a big question: WHAT ARE YOU AND YOUR FEDERAL AND
STATE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS DOING ABOUT BRINGING THE
PERPETRATORS TO JUSTICE? Contact the senators for your district and
ask them what can be done, there are any number of actions that can be
taken.

Contact as many people as you can (governmental and non-governmental)
about Terri's plight. Make stickers, bumper stickers, licence plates,
posters, etc.

Be creative, do take action.

"Petition for State protective custody for Terri" (please get the petition
information out to as many peoples as possible)
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/chisana7/

"Saving Terri Schiavo"
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/19461949/

Laws being broken:
http://zimp.org/

Petition for Governor Bush to put Terri in protective custody:
http://www.petitiononline.com/chisana7/petition.html

Connect the Dots ... for Terri
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1130771/posts?page=11#11

http://www.terrisfight.org

http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm

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The light is shining brighter on the real fact that pursuant to the Life
Felony Crimes Laws, FS825.102, which are intended to protect all of us from
the acts or omissions of others to cause us great harm or even cause our
death, when we become unable to speak and do for ourselves, no matter the
cause -- No person, elderly or disabled can be denied food and water,
delivered by any means we are able to receive, or medicine, speech therapy,
physical therapy, necessary services and rehabilitation -- to do so carries
up to Life Felony imprisonment.

Michael is just a used name. He is a puppet. The real people behind all of
these criminal acts that have been perpetrated upon vulnerable and fleecable
people, just as with Terri, are the Debra Bushnell's, the George Felos', the
Clan of Judges and the law enforcement officials they puppeteer. This
bunch -- there are other groups just like them around the state -- are only
using the powers of a guardian to *hide* Terri [ cage/kidnap ] to make sure
she gets no stimulation, no visitors, no therapies of any kind, and possibly
try to intentionally depress her by telling her that her blood family has
abandoned her, so she will give up on living; so that she will give up
fighting them from causing her to die; Causing death = Killing. All doctors
have testified that she can hear. Videotaped examinations prove it.

Michael Schiavo has been a borrowed name on all of these court filings for
the purpose of making this woman dead. It was in May of 1998 when Michael
came up with the announcement to the public, through his Petition to Kill hi
s wife with a civil court order obtained for the purpose of starving and
dehydrating his wife to death. If that is true, his bringing to the
attention of the 6th Circuit Court, and never before in the 140 other court
hearing and trial opportunities going back to the day Terri was injured, the
hearsay and unwritten assertion that his wife told him several years prior
to 1990 that she would not want to live on a feeding tube. So teach her how
to eat by mouth again. Judge Greer was asked by her kin, and showed the
laws that mandate, but going against the laws he took oath to uphold, he
instead said "I don't want anybody feeding that woman", during open court in
2001.

Given that between Feb 1990 and May 1998 Michael never brought up any
statements of Terri's saying no feeding tube and not saying that she wanted
to be starved to death, the light now shines directly on December 14, 1995,
nearly 2 and one half years prior to Michael's *new* assertion that Terri
did not want a feeding tube.

That is the day, according to a careless mistake of two of the perpetrators
using Michael to make Terri dead, that George Felos and Debra Bushnell had a
meeting to discuss the discontinuance of the feeding tube. It was a full 16
months prior to Michael having his first conference with George Felos on
March 14, 1997. Felos is the self-proclaimed right-to-be-made-dead
attorney that was immediately hired by Michael and approved by the court two
months, to be paid with Terri's Jury awarded 1.4 million dollars
specifically for 51 years of life expectancy and for her care AND
rehabilitation. Not for an attorney hired to kill her.

So, Michael's guardianship attorney Bushnell,
meets with the expert death attorney Felos,
16 months later Michael hires Felos using Terri's money and not his own
$660,000 jury award to shack up and make babies with Jodi Centonze while
prohibiting any forms of rehabilitation,
so that he can use his wife's money to make her dead, and then yet another
14 months later,
makes the announcement that Terri said in 1986 "no feeding tube" by filing
May 11, 1998 *his* Petition to starve and dehydrate Terri --- an act,
granted by a judge, that would kill his wife, would finish her off, by
denying and withholding all forms of food, water, medicine, speech therapy,
necessary services and rehabilitation.

The light is on the calculator. The sum of the facts could appear to total
up to a Premeditated Plot and Plan to intentionally kill their clients wife.
A plan that was developed over several years. Once the permission was
sought from Judge Greer, this murder plan was enacted, and set into play.
This changed everything into a bonafide crime. Attempted Murder, 1st Degree
Felony Falsification of Advance Directives (30 years), 1st Degree Felony
Neglect with intent to cause death and Attempted Aggravated Manslaughter on
a Disabled Person -- all pursuant to the Crime Laws and Statutes of Florida.

Judge Greer in his February 11, 2000 Order, committed malpractice by
misdiagnosing Terri as being an unconscious and unaware person [lawsuit 1]
and then Ordered the Guardian of the Ward to commit a 1st Degree Felony
Crime by removing Terri's feeding tube and denying her constitutional and
legal right to be protected and not feloniously victimized by being caused
to die.

Is the light on for anyone else?

David.
[Note: dates and timelines taken directly from public guardianship records,
public records, transcripts and depositions]

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>Is the light on for anyone else?

My only comment is that it's all moot so long as the principals enjoy
virtual "above the law" status.


57 posted on 05/15/2004 2:48:47 PM PDT by pc93
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To: Motherbear
Why is this "vegetable" being lifted up to sit in a chair? geesh Is this the usual treatment for comotose patients? Or is it because she's not really in a coma?
Hi Motherbear,
I glanced backwards at your history of posts, and you seem to have a good head on your shoulders, and a good heart. So let's assume you just aren't well informed...

...or else maybe you meant sarcasm, but I didn't catch it...
According to her health care workers from 1996, Terri was eating soft food with a spoon at that time.

"She's not a vegetable," Ms. Sauer insisted as she rested her tired feet. "She knows voices, she responds. She can follow commands, and she tries to communicate by blinking her eyelids 'yes' and 'no.'" And then there's the most important detail of all: "We used to feed her with a spoon, and she swallowed on her own."

That was seven years ago[1996], when Ms. Sauer was a nurse at a rehab facility in Largo, Fla. At that time, Ms. Schiavo was getting physical therapy and full-time attention from skilled nurses. But the facility charged $4,000 a month, as Ms. Sauer recalls, and Mr. Schiavo soon chose to discontinue his wife's therapy and move her into the much cheaper hospice system. She's languished there for six years, tethered to a feeding tube while a fierce legal battle swirled around her.
...and then theres this from 2002...
From "Terri Big Eyes" video available at www.terrisfight.org

Terri starts out apparently asleep. A doctor wakes her to start his tests.

Doctor: Terri. Open your eyes up...

Terri: (Startled at hearing her name. She starts moving her mouth and fluttering her eyes, like a person who is just waking up)

Doctor: Open your eyes, Terri open your eyes

Terri: (slowly at first, Terri struggles to open her eyes, then turns toward the doctor, and opens her eyes a normal amount)

Doctor: There you go, good.

Terri: (then, either to show off(?) or wanting to perform well, she leans further forward toward the doctor, looks straight at him and opens her eyes as WIDE AS SHE CAN. Note the WRINKLES ACROSS HER FOREHEAD caused by her also RAISING HER EYEBROWS as high as possible )

Doctor: [now obviously impressed] GOOD!! GOOD JOB! GOOD JOB YOUNG LADY! Good Job.

58 posted on 05/15/2004 4:19:29 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer
I guess I wasn't sarcastic enough. :) Terry is not a "vegetable" to me or to my God.
And I see no reason why she would be lifted to a chair, unless she indicated a desire to be in that chair. Most comatose patients do not sit in chairs.


59 posted on 05/15/2004 4:27:32 PM PDT by Motherbear
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To: lugsoul
A few things lugsoul: A 1991 Bone Scan report conducted by Dr. Campbell Walker, MD, showed thirteen fractures and listed "repeated trauma" among the text within that report. Terri Schiavo was initially diagnosed as having a "Stiff Neck" at the time of her entrance into Humana Hospital. Dr. Hammesfahr, a board-certified neurologist listed "possible strangulation" in 2002 as the reason for Terri's neck injury, which is permanent, Lugsoul. Michael Schiavo, litigious enough to sue Terri's gynecologist for millions of dollars, never uttered a word to anyone for over a decade in the 1992 malpractice trial nor anywhere else concerning that bone scan report. An innocent Michael would have shouted this report from the rooftops! So, you see, Lugsoul, also, last November, Michael's lawyer filed a protective order, barring ANY discussion of said Bone Scan report by Dr. Walker. Schiavo had the report, Schiavo concealed the report, and he's STILL attempting to hide that report!

A dozen years after the lawsuit in 1992, a doctor starts asking some questions. Bulimia, causing a heart attack, depriving Terri's brain of oxygen was the cause of her injuries? At least Grimm's Fairy Tales usually have a happy ending. Terri's teeth were never acid-eroded, Lug, Terri never had muscle cramps, Lug, Terri's potassium was out of whack, but so were a bunch of other levels. Do a little research, Lug, look up who the defense attorney of Pru was: Yes, John Charles Lenderman, name ring a bell? As in, John Charles Lenderman, Greer benchmate, as in husband of another Lenderman, on the board of Suncoast Hospice? This story stinks to holy high heaven!

This country allows for its citizens to sue for just about anything, so yeah, Schiavo could ostesibly sue someone, or perhaps file a class action suit against who knows, half the free world, that regualarly discusses this sleazeball. Unfortunately, if our hero Michael Schiavo is idiotic enough to file a lawsuit for libel or slander, protesting statements made about him all over the nation by hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, he would be in an interesting position. In order to prove slander or libel, the burden of proof falls on the accused bringing action to prove the statements untrue. At least the records would need to be discussed. You see, opinion is opinion, Lug, and the public is not a court of law. Within a court, certain rules need to be followed, like a person is always innocent until proven guilty. When you have such blatant and obvious judicial activism, cronyism, bias, and favoritism as in this case, when foolish decisions by a judge not fit to decide what color wallpaper should go up in his living room let alone allow oral and unsubstantiated statements to pass for "clear and convincing" evidence, when you see how flawed of a history that this judge has, how he sent a woman to death because of his faulty judgement, well, the public doesn't have to wait for a slick, cadaver-chasing lawyer to find loopholes for his client and the law, in order for the public to know that something is up.

I would assume that if the ACLU is latching on to the FREEREPUBLIC, it is no surprise since the ACLU is defending Michael's lawsuit against the state of Florida. I suppose that they want to keep their client looking clean.

There isn't enough Dawn Detergent and Lysol to get the smell of fish off this guy.

60 posted on 05/15/2004 6:02:32 PM PDT by MonteMar
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To: iowamomforfreedom
>> I wouldn't worry too much about Michael suing
Never gave it a thought. I frame remarks what I regard as true, not by what-if-they-sue legal thinking. When you start caving in to litigiousness, truth will be the first casualty.

I might add, I have no wish to defame or libel anyone. Not out of legal worries but because it's wrong.

Nevertheless, since somebody raised the legal matter, it is kind of fun to think about. If you have dark secrets, a lawsuit is the fast road to get them exposed. For example, Alger Hiss was egged on by the whole elitist liberal world he inhabited to sue Whittaker Chambers, or else lose his credibility. That opened the whole case to critical examination. In the end, not only the jury but the world knew that Hiss was a Soviet agent, and that he lied, and lied, and lied, denying it.


61 posted on 05/16/2004 10:02:58 AM PDT by T'wit ("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society" - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Motherbear
thanks for the clarification.

62 posted on 05/16/2004 5:48:25 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: MonteMar
Bulimia, causing a heart attack, depriving Terri's brain of oxygen was the cause of her injuries? At least Grimm's Fairy Tales usually have a happy ending. Terri's teeth were never acid-eroded, Lug, Terri never had muscle cramps, Lug, Terri's potassium was out of whack, but so were a bunch of other levels. Do a little research, Lug, look up who the defense attorney of Pru was: Yes, John Charles Lenderman, name ring a bell? As in, John Charles Lenderman, Greer benchmate, as in husband of another Lenderman, on the board of Suncoast Hospice? This story stinks to holy high heaven!
I wonder if those five (or seven) teeth that were PULLED were the ones that should have been the BEST EVIDENCE that Terri NEVER HAD BULEMIA?
(Is Mickey trying to destroy the evidence?)


63 posted on 05/16/2004 6:03:52 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: phenn
Does this mean Terri can see her parents again without them having to pay for police presence?

64 posted on 05/16/2004 7:19:48 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: joesnuffy
I recently visited the Holocaust Museum in Wash DC. Terri is very much like one of those unfortunate victims of medical experimentation.

65 posted on 05/16/2004 7:29:56 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: MonteMar
WOW!!! That is one heck of an in your face post! Talk about getting the fact with perfect chronology. Geeez. Michael Shiavo is one freaking human being.

66 posted on 05/16/2004 7:32:07 PM PDT by Republic
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To: Golden Gate
I agree with you that this is a lousy title for the thread. How 'bout: Michael Schiavo Caught in Web of Deceit - OR - Schindler's Being Punished For Nothing

67 posted on 05/16/2004 7:35:08 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: Republic
Amen.

68 posted on 05/16/2004 7:40:41 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: lugsoul
So all we have to do is say "in my humble opinion" (IMHO) and then we can say whatever we want. Yahoo!

69 posted on 05/16/2004 7:42:53 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: floriduh voter
Thanks for posting the photos. Turned away . . .

70 posted on 05/16/2004 7:44:30 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: floriduh voter
Bump for Terri.

71 posted on 05/16/2004 7:45:29 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: pc93
I think OJ Simpson, Gary Condit and Michael Schiavo have something in common.

72 posted on 05/16/2004 7:48:07 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: lugsoul
>> if it is false, "It was a crime that damaged Terri's brain initially" would certainly be defamatory.
Did you even read the few words you quote? Who is defamed? Who was accused? There is no name. Nobody is accused of anything.

While we're at it, what kind of crime was it?

This, from a law definitions web site: "Defamation definition – an intentional false communication that injures another person’s good name or reputation."

I added the italics to emphasize these two tests: A) It has to be intentionally false, not just "false," which is a different argument. A view that is merely mistaken is not defamatory. Akin to the Sullivan rule, there has to be something like malice at work -- intent to falsify and harm. B) It has to cause injury. If Michael Schiavo claims to be the unnamed person in the above quotation, and sues, he still cannot point to any real injury.


73 posted on 05/17/2004 7:00:17 AM PDT by T'wit (Liberal to child: you'll sink into depravity eventually, so do it at home, now, where it's hygienic)
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To: MonteMar; lugsoul
>> An innocent Michael would have shouted this report from the rooftops!
The report was successfully concealed by Michael Schiavo in collusion with George Felos. Felos is no dummy, he knew what that report meant and kept it hidden.

It was revealed when Felos accidentally handed it to the Schindlers' attorney along with other papers. Either a monumental blunder by him or the hand of God working for Terri.

Several doctors here in Free Republic have looked at it as well. Terri's injuries were equal in magnitude to a severe auto wreck. Of course, she wasn't in any auto wrecks.


74 posted on 05/17/2004 7:12:42 AM PDT by T'wit (Liberal to child: you'll sink into depravity eventually, so do it at home, now, where it's hygienic)
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To: floriduh voter
Wow, is that Catherine Zeta-Jones? Or maybe it's Tax-chick? She had a new tagline yesterday, "It's possible that I look exactly like Catherine Zeta-Jones."

75 posted on 05/17/2004 7:19:09 AM PDT by T'wit (Liberal to child: you'll sink into depravity eventually, so do it at home, now, where it's hygienic)
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To: MonteMar
>> Bulimia, causing a heart attack... ?
For future editions, you might add in that Terri has never had a heart attack. I think that rules out some of the "chemical imbalance" theories for her "collapse." But I'm not a medic, so others with expertise ought to explain that aspect.


76 posted on 05/17/2004 10:44:43 AM PDT by T'wit (Liberal to child: you'll sink into depravity eventually, so do it at home, now, where it's hygienic)
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To: T'wit
Terri's 1494th day of false imprisonment by Michael Schiavo \ his attorneys \ Hospice of Florida Suncoast: Terri is non-terminal and is being falsely caged and confined and subjected to criminal neglect, no therapy which ACLU apparently fully supports

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1137101/posts?page=29#29

77 posted on 05/17/2004 4:59:12 PM PDT by pc93
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To: MonteMar
Bump.

78 posted on 03/21/2005 9:51:02 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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Posted by: Charli at March 26, 2005 7:22 PM

this is a sad and sickening situation for terri to face upon her final days, terry deserves to die as a human, not as a animal, and to remove her feeding tube for her to starve to death is pitiful, terry does not deserve to die in this horrable manner, a criminal at least gets his last meal. my thoughts and prayers are with you terry,

Posted by: kimberly at March 27, 2005 11:36 PM

This is awful.

Posted by: john at March 28, 2005 8:57 PM

http://www.barefootsworld.net/admiralty.html

How can "justice" get away with this - see the above link. Under admiralty law they can tell congress to go to hades, as they are the supreme rulers in the country... that's how they are doing it... and why the executive branch and congress can't do a thing, "legally"

Posted by: concerned at March 29, 2005 3:15 PM

While the mainstream media has presented the Terri Schiavo story as a simple "right to die" case, the truth is that it may really be more of a murder mystery in which the U.S. justice system was hijacked for completion of the crime. Today Terri Schiavo died, so Michael Schiavo's murderous crime is complete. The big question now is, will the American system of justice prove its worth by undoing the crime that has been committed?

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In 2003, St. Petersburg police and the Pinellas County State Attorney refused a request to investigate the possibility that Terri Schiavo fell victim to abuse by her husband Michael because by that time the statute of limitations had run out on attempted murder.

See - http://www.theempirejournal.com/021505_pattern_of_domestic_abuse.htm

However, there is no statute of limitations on murder. Now that Terri's dead, Michael could be investigated for, and possibly charged with, murder.

Why should Michael Schiavo be subject to a murder investigation?

Here's some answers...

http://www.spiritoftruth.org/schiavo.htm

Posted by: J. Adams at April 1, 2005 7:31 PM



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