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February 12, 2005

Michael Schiavo's former girlfriend speaks: Excerpts From Cynthia Shook's May 8, 2001 Deposition given in fear

Topics: Terri Schiavo's Life Counts

In a previous Hyscience post, Carole Lieberman, M.D., M.P.H., Psychiatrist and expert medical witness, and  the author of the book, Bad Boys: Why We Love Them, How to Live with Them and When to Leave Them, was quoted as saying, "I have studied men who exhibit pathology in their relationships with women. Profiles of the twelve different types of bad boys are explained. Michael Schiavo fits the profile, described in the book as the Prince of Darkness (see chapter 13). O.J. Simpson was cited as a classic example of this type, and there are indeed similarities between the two men. It is especially significant to note that O.J. flew into a homicidal rage when he realized that Nicole was totally abandoning him, as is characteristic of these impulsive men who most dread being abandoned by their woman. Similarly, Michael Schiavo was likely to have known that Terri had begun making plans to divorce him, since she had told a coworker and family member. Stalking is characteristic of this type of man, as well. And a girlfriend of Michael's, Cindy, accused him of stalking her in 2001."

This is the story of "Cindy," and the deposition that she had to be forced to give, out of her fear of Michael Schiavo. Terri was also afraid of Michael, but of course Michael has been hard at work to make sure that she can't give a deposition as Cindy has!

In late 1991, 1½ years after Terri's collapse, Michael Schiavo became involved in an intimate relationship with Cindy Shook. The romance continued for approximately one year. It can be documented that the two spent a weekend at the Don Caesar hotel in St. Petersburg Beach and they also contacted a Century 21 Realtor on the premise of purchasing a home.

In May of 1992, at the apex of the romance, Schiavo had Terri's 2 pet cats euthanized to clear the way for his moving in with Cindy and her pet dog.

In the summer of 1992, Schiavo moved into his parent's home. We can speculate with reasonable accuracy, it was at the instructions of his attorney, since the living arrangement would be contrary to Schiavo's "loving husband" image they were projecting for the upcoming November 1992 malpractice trial.

In April 2001, Cindy Shook (married name Brasher) was interviewed by an investigator working in Terri's behalf. Unwilling to come forward because of her immense fear of Schiavo, Cindy had to be subpoenaed and was then subsequently deposed on May 8, 2001 to try and learn more regarding her intimate knowledge of Michael Schiavo's character traits.

Excerpts; May 8, 2001 Deposition:

Cindy Shook describing Schiavo's possessiveness.

"he's very jealous. He stalked me at where I worked after I stopped dating...when he would get mad at me he would tell me, I would rather be laying in bed in the nursing home with her than with you. I mean he can be the most incredibly mean person"

When asked if she were afraid that Michael would physically harm her or if he would harm children.

"I am concerned about retaliation because I have a child -I have children and a husband. I know him, I know what he told me I said he could be a very mean person."

She spoke of how Schiavo stalked her for close to a year after the breakup and that she received repeated phone calls.

"He came on the floor looking for me several times. I felt it was out of character for him to get a job as an orderly at the hospital That was concerning to me. When he would come up to the floor looking for her she was not scared the first time but later was scared.

In town I would look up when I was driving...not at my work- she would look up in the rear view mirror and there would be Michael Schiavo. I would look up and he would be behind me in traffic. It continued for several months after he didn't work at the hospital. She would change lanes, try to make a turn and he would do the same. He did this about ten times.

One time he was behind me in traffic he got next to me in a two-lane going the same way, and he changed lanes basically right on top of where I was at, and I had to swerve not to be hit. I had to swerve off the road. Michael ran me off the road. I considered it as stalking, dangerous and guessed potentially life threatening."

Cindy thought about getting a restraining order. She talked to an off duty police officer in her building

They discussed marriage. She said Schiavo asked what would you do if I asked you to marry me. He never discussed getting a divorce.

Cindy said Schiavo got angry when asked questions about Terri saying:

"this had destroyed his life and he was being robed of a normal life."

Regarding Terri's care, according to Cindy Shook, Michael Schiavo said,

"How the hell should I know we never spoke about this, my God I was only 25 years old. How the hell should I know? We were young. We never spoke of this."

THEY NEVER SPOKE OF THIS! Yet now Michael claims that Terri's wish was to die of starvation and dehydration, and the infamous Judge George Greer rubber stamps it. Why?

A case for Criminal Investigation of Michael Schiavo:

1) Nurses' testimony: Heidi Law, Carla Sauer-Iyer, Carolyn Johnson have been ignored and dismissed without hearing; each testified that Michael was abusive to Terri and may have attempted to kill her by insulin injection and attempts to induce pneumonia by turning the thermostat in her room to 64 degrees.

2) Michael Baden, top forensic pathologist in country and interviewed on Fox News National Television broadcast October 25, 2003 on Terri's bone scan and injuries states that:

            a) Terri's injuries are not consistent with a heart attack; no cardiac evidence to support it 
b) Extremely rare for potassium imbalance on woman her age and in her good health      
c) Injuries are consistent with severe trauma possibly caused by a beating
            d) The injuries in medical records warrant an immediate investigation

3) Dr. William Hammesfahr, Nobel prize nominee and neurologist testified that Terri's neck injuries are consistent with only one type of injury: that of strangulation.

4) Terri's doctor, Dr. Gambone resigned; he had previously testified Terri would die within a few days of starvation/dehydration.  Terri has an obvious will to live.

5) Michael has enlisted the services of a new doctor, Stanton Tripodis, who has 5 malpractice suits against him.  Clearly, Michael is attempting to provide sub-standard care for his wife.

Case no. 97007946C1 filed 11-25-97
Case no. 94003739C1 filed 6-27-94         
Case no. 95000873C1 filed 2-14-95         
Case no. 96001434C1 filed 3-6-96         
Case no. 98002289C1 filed 4-7-98

6) Michael is committing adultery by living with another woman who has already born one child with another on the way, thereby creating an obvious conflict of interest as guardian.

7) Michael has committed both perjury (2 counts) and insurance fraud by promising to provide care and therapy for his wife in exchange for the court award of 1.2 million dollars in 1993.  No care has ever been provided to Terri.

8) Michael Schiavo has also prevented Terri from undergoing a barium swallow test, a procedure necessary to ascertain the consistency of foods able to be taken by mouth.

9) Co-conspirator George J. Felos combined and conspired with Michael Schiavo to arrange for Terri's "free" stay at Hospice Woodside as part of an "exit protocol" designed to advance Felos' self-perceived messianic mission of "helping" incapacitated people to die by categorizing them as "terminal," warehousing them, and depriving them of therapy and rehabilitation services. (Attorney Felos is Director of Florida Right to Die and has testified that he can ascertain a person's desire to die by "looking into their eyes and letting their spirit speak directly to him")

10) Investigate Insurance company established in Jan 2001 at the home of Michael Schiavo and his girlfriend/fiancee Jody Centonze. (Jerger and Centonze Insurnace Agency Inc.) Michael is listed on the Board of Directors for the corporation.  Note: Insurance is deliberately misspelled in the State of Florida Corporate filing, possibly to avoid investigation.

11) Michael continues to deny Terri the right to receive Holy Communion as part of her Catholic and civil right.

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Posted by: Stephen Park at February 13, 2005 7:30 PM

I am so incensed at the unwillingness of the FL judiciary to investigate M. Schiavo. It is obvious that his lawyer G. Felos wants to further his own cause; guilt and the subsequent discovery of crimes committed against Terri can be the only reason Schiavo has not relinquished control of her life. It is truly a struggle of good versus evil.

Posted by: Renate Young at February 14, 2005 12:00 PM

I cannot believe that this sadistic man is still allowed control over Terri, and that judge Greer is so callous and meanspirited. I wonder if Michael would like to be starved to death, or if the judge would allow this to happen to a member of his family. It is amazing that Scott Peterson is sentenced to prison by a judge for killing his wife, and now here is a judge giving a man permission to kill his wife and get away with it. It stinks. If Michael dosen't want his wife, then divorce her and let her parents look after her. I do hope and pray that Gov. Jeb Bush can and will do something about this case.

Posted by: Shirley Heschl at February 14, 2005 4:16 PM

Perhaps, judge Greer is getting a kick back from that shyster lawyer and the phony husband.
This is a clear case of "conflict of interest"
and the judge is totally out of it. M Schiavo,
his creepy lawyer, and the judge are "Evil"
They have no real explanation of why they do not let the Parents take care of her. Also, the judge is not ruling according to the "Law", M Schiavo has denied the Priest to give "Holy Communion" to Terri, right there the Judge should change the guardian. M. Schiavo is no longer her husband because he did not keep his promise to protect her and to allow her to practice her "Faith". He is a joke of a husband, the lawyer is a joke, and the judge is a joke. All three are corrupt. This judge should be investigated because his ruling does not make any sense and I think he is on the take.

Posted by: Jane Doe at February 14, 2005 8:15 PM

Lest we forget, where there is life,there is hope.

Posted by: Sharon Stockard at February 17, 2005 12:04 AM

Many children, in a lot worse condition than Terri, pass me by daily at the hospital where I work. Parents and family taking these special angels to be seen by physicians, nurses, technicians, and other medical practitioners who may be able to offer help to these children. Even if they do not improve, they are no less loved, respected and cherished by their families. Time and money are of no consequence to these parents who truly love their children and will do whatever it takes to help them.
What would one of these parents do if a judge ruled that the he/she is to stand by and watch the child be starved to death and deprived of nourishment? That parent would react the way Terri's parents have, exhibiting true love and selflessness when it comes to their child.

If Terri's "husband" does not want to fullfill his marriage vows, then let him step out of the picture and continue on with his life-----------
And let Terri continue on with her life.

Posted by: Donna at February 26, 2005 1:50 AM


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Posted by: TAMARA POWERS at March 14, 2005 2:24 AM

This is obviously a battle that is beyond our reality. Who would have thought years ago that a case like this and its possibilities would even occur. Yet, here we are. I am praying very hard for Terri. Michael should watch out. What goes around comes around and now he has kids.....if he gets a law like this to stick, he may just be the recipient of its consequences in the future.

Posted by: Sandy at March 16, 2005 2:12 PM

So wrong. Just so wrong.
The injustice is mind boggling.

Posted by: tali at March 17, 2005 6:57 AM

I saw the guy in an interview on some
news channel and he has a huge ego.

What goes around comes around.
That's all I have to say.

Posted by: mike at March 17, 2005 9:42 AM

I hope her parents take her out of that "hospital" before that lunatic "husband" of hers kills her! He should NOT have any rights with her, since there is NO WRITTEN LIVING WILL, and HE IS PROBABLY PAYING OFF THE JUDGE! JUDGE GREER SHOULD BE KICKED OUT OF OFFICE FOR THIS! THIS IS MURDER!!!!! BOTH ARE EVIL MEN!

Posted by: Terri Marie Vicario-Sturgeon at March 17, 2005 12:05 PM

About a year and a half ago, I worked two 40 hour wknds(!) up all night in the offices of the (former) lawyer for Terri's parents. I was able to read most of the files on the case. I was there when two former nurses phoned (separately and entirely of their own volition)and asked to come in and give an affidavit about what they knew. They said they could no longer keep silent, though for years they were so intimidated by Michael Schiavo, they were afraid to speak up. I was there when each of them, on their own, arrived in the garage of the office building. Both of them looked around to make sure they were not being followed! Both of them described hideous behavior over the years by Michael Schiavo. They described his phone calls (especially when she had an infection and he forbade antibiotics) asking the nurses "Is the bitch dead yet?" and his boasting of how he was going to spend the money he would get after her death. Weeks would go by when he would not visit at all. Once he received the million dollar settlement, he forbade Terri being taken outside in a wheelchair for change of scenery and fresh air. He forbade music on her radio. He had her personal effects removed from the room - all visual stimuli. Her parents and siblings were not allowed to visit her and could not read her chart. One of the nurses talked about his visits to Terri when he closed the door and was alone with her. When that nurse entered the room after he left, she found Terri shaken, trembling and pale and looking as if she was in a diabetic crisis. Terri has no blood sugar problems due to her regulated diet, but seeing her distress and the appearance of diabetic crisis, the nurse gave her a glucose test anyway and the numbers were so skewed that it was clear Terri was in insulin shock. The nurse gave her a shot to alleviate the diabetic shock and immediately suspected Michael had injected her during his visit to cause this. I believe she said this happened at least twice. The nurses also described taking care of Terri and how when she had menstrual cramps she would curl up and put her hands on her tummy (she was able to move them in those early days before the atrophy progressed due to Michael forbidding therapy)and clearly say "Pain!" or "Pain!" and call for her mother. They said that's how they knew to give her medication for her menstrual pain. They talked about how after Michael won the big settlement award, he forbade all further rehab treatment of every kind. So, on a visit to Terri, he saw this nurse had threaded a washcloth between Terri's fingers to relieve the cramping and he pulled it out of her fingers and shouted "I said NO THERAPY!" Michael removed all family photos from her room. He refused to allow her teeth to be brushed (no doubt hoping a tooth infection would give her a heart attack). When the nurses wrote in her daily chart they had observed her speaking words like "Pain" and "Mommy", the next day their comments were missing from the chart! They talked about how he would stand extra close to them and shout in their faces that he would see that they were fired if they tried to feed her or go against any of his orders. He is a very tall and large man and towers over the average man or woman. They also mentioned that he was having an affair or flirtation with the head nurse and they suspected that's how the charts were being altered. One nurse tried to report the mistreatment of Terri and was fired. I seem to recall she even went to the police but nothing came of it. And there is more - George Felos was on the Board of Directors (cannot recall if he was chair or owner) of the hospice where she was kept. He resigned his post to avoid the scandal of that connection being made. Some of you may not realize that legally a hospice is only for those who have six months or less left to live, who are terminally ill. Hospice is not a convalescent home - it is a place to die in painless comfort with counseling and support given to patient and family. Terri does not belong in hospice. Patients in her condition are normally cared for in convalescent homes. Did you know that George Felos has a book about Terri already written and ready to publish as soon as she dies?

While I worked at that law office, coincidentally, one of the attorneys had an unrelated reason to visit a local funeral home. During that visit, a casual conversation with a funeral home employee revealed, entirely by accident, that the funeral home had an "open file" set up for the immediate, without delay or autopsy, cremation of Terri Schiavo upon her death. Michael Schiavo made these arrangements immediately after winning the big million dollar settlement and all these years they stand ready to carry out his wishes. Once her body is cremated, no one will ever be able to prove the abuse he is so desperate to conceal.

While working in that office I also read statements by co-workers and friends of Terri about the bruises she had, the evident signs of physical abuse that were visible when she would come to work and which she claimed were the result of wrestling with Michael, but no one believed that. Eventually, she admitted to a co-worker and a friend that she wanted to leave Michael and that he was dominating and controlling and she was frightened of him. She talked about leaving him and sharing an apartment with the girlfriend she confided in. She said that Michael was so controlling and scary that he would check her odometer after her daily usage of the car. His behavior is an exact match to that of spousal abusers. When Terri met Michael, she was completely smitten with him - he was very handsome and he was her first boyfriend. She had been a bit chubby and became very weight conscious to be attractive to him. She worshipped him initially and he was able to dominate and intimidate her quite easily due to her naivete. Terri was a vivacious girl. She was a rescuer and enabler by nature. She loved and caredfor injured birds and animals and was very much pro-life. She is also Catholic and there is no reason to believe she disagrees with the church's pro-life stance.

To those who have heard negative comments about Terri's parents, I will say that I am a mature sophisticated woman and have lived all over the country and worked in the health and legal fields most of my life. I met her parents and I have no doubt whatsoever that they are anything less than devoted, loving parents. They are both small in stature and soft-spoken gentle ordinary, middle-class people. I have children in their 30's - parental love only grows with the years and I would fight as hard as they have to prevent the completion of the murder of their daughter.

Most of the money awarded by the court for Terri's rehabilitation has been paid to George Felos. I don't understand how money that is misspent as this was cannot be grounds for prosecution of Michael. He wept in court and brought experts in to testify that Terri could be rehabilitated if they only were given enough money. So, they won that settlement and he immediately ceased all rehab.

I am baffled by the stubborn meanness and refusal of that idiot probate(!) (probate law does not require genius, to put it mildly) judge Greer to admit solid evidence and handle this case fairly. Who knows what transpires behind closed doors to slant the judge in this fashion? Conspiracy? As long as people in this country allow themselves to be told "conspiracy" is a bad word or that believing one exists means you are a nutcase, then we will continue to be duped by unprincipled, self-serving criminals who worship money and power and have no respect for human life. A conspiracy is whenever two or more people secretly plan something and clearly something has compromised the justice in this case.

Just for the record, I am pro-choice and I also believe in a patient's right to choose IF they are able to prepare and sign a witnessed, notarized living will or DNR document. Terri is not vegetative or in any coma at all. Who cannot see the love and life in her eyes when she sees her mother? She was nearly killed and will be killed if Michael gets his way. George Felos will have a bestseller and probably kick back some of that money to Michael Schiavo and who knows who else will profit?

I had to share some of these facts - the news never really reports the truth nowadays. Each day, our local news stations continue to refer to Terri as in a vegetative coma and it infuriates me. Not one journalist, not the local TV news nor the big stations, Larry King, Barbara Walters, etc., has thoroughly sleuthed out all the facts, even the ones I described here, and reported them to the public.

I cannot help but mention to all of you reading this - with so little truth being reported on this case - think about the quality of the news you hear on TV and in the papers about our government, the war in Iraq, social security reform, health and environment, education, political office, taxes, ufos, ETC!!! Do you really think you are getting the truth about everything and that Terri's case is an isolated incident of lies and deceit and poor reporting?

Posted by: Rohana at March 17, 2005 1:37 PM

Well, since the very beginning I have believed that M. Schiavo has had something up his sleeve. When I heard that he had forbidden any therapy, my gut feeling was that he knew that eventually, if Terry recovered, she would finger him as the cause of her condition due to an attack BY him. So, all he had to do was find someone he could pay-off and HIS problem would be ended. He is probably paying some big bucks to the media down there to keep having his wife referred to as being in a vegetative state. Money did it for O.J., and looks like it is going to do it for Michael also.

Posted by: Julia Eaton at March 17, 2005 9:11 PM

Micheal Schiavo must disapear!! Anyone willing to put this piece of shit out of his misery? Just bleed him, like a stuck pig.

Posted by: A Friend at March 18, 2005 1:50 AM

If Terri ultimately dies, it is the publically stated intention of Michael Schiavo to have her immediately cremated. The Pinellas County Medical Examiner's office (District 6) would need to certify such cremation. [See ] The Medical Examiner should NOT do so if there is a question about the promximate cause of her death (or face adverse licensing action in Florida).

For future reference, though I hope it need not be used any time soon, the email for the Coroner's office is .

Should Terri die, everyone must immediately demand a waiver of certification for cremation and an investigation, including autopsy to determine proximate (and immediate) cause of death. Since Dr. Baden (forensic pathologist) believes the injuries are not consistent with Michael Schiavo's story, an autopsy would perhaps develop evidence that would put Michael Schiavo behind bars, and perhaps "retire" the miserable excuse of a judge, George Greer.

Posted by: Robert Smith MD at March 18, 2005 10:03 AM

From what I have read, I truly believe Mr. Schiavo did abuse and injure his wife so severely that it caused her to become the way she is. Due to the fact that he wants her to have no therapy because he does not want her to get better, because he is afraid if she comes out of it she will tell everyone what he did to her. Then he will be charged with a crime, and hopefully be sentenced to prison!! Otherwise, why would a man that has moved on with his life be so adamant about having his wife (only on paper)be starved to death, when she can breath on her own and the only life sustaining thing that she can't do is eat by mouth!

Posted by: Patricia Kennedy at March 18, 2005 6:53 PM

Michael cracked Terry's neck in 1990.
Then, he did everything to keep her silent.
In few weeks she will be cremated, and new OJ will walk around LAUGHING to us...

Posted by: Aleksandr at March 18, 2005 9:36 PM

I smell a BIG FAT RAT! The three of these men are clearly CROOKS! This judge & lawyer is being paid off. God knows all & can see all. "There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known" Matthew 10:26 NIV

Posted by: Neicy at March 19, 2005 12:19 AM

As a New Zealander I am amazed at the evil of this situation regarding Terri, in what is purported to be a civilized society. How can Judge Greer be so cruel and unethical? Surely you must have laws prohibiting such cruelty to animals and here we have a living, breathing human-being who is being 'legally???' tortured and put to death. If this happens every American should feel real shame and beg forgiveness from the Almighty or real judgment will come upon your (then) God-forsaken land. Why has Michael Schiavo not been investigated when there is physical evidence which can so easily prove that he has lied about Terri's original condition and then defrauded insurance companies out of over a million dollars? Why has he been allowed for years to have sole 'custody' of his wife when he is obviously not protecting her best interests (by withholding care and therapies) and is living with another woman in a defacto marriage through which he has produced his evil spawn. How can this be allowed?? Is there no justice in the good ol' U S of A? Iraq is one thing but to mess in your own nest like this is quite another. Have you any concept of how the rest of the world sees you? How can this be justified? How barbaric is your country? Whatever the outcome now (and I pray that Terri will not have her tube removed and that she will finally be placed in the care of her parents) I feel absolutely disgusted that this situation has been allowed to continue, for so many years, and even deteriorate to where it is today. Poor Terri has already been tortured in the past at the hands of your 'legal system' by having her tube removed for six days! Why hasn't anyone had her examined by a truly ethical and unbiased professional. Why are people (such as Judge Greer et al.) making life, or rather, death, decisions regarding someone whom they refuse to visit or arrange for experts to evaluate. Are they all mad?????
If Terri is murdered by your legal system (and you all stand by and allow it to happen) then I pray that God will repay, quickly, by wiping out your nation, before your evil spreads any further. I for one cannot bear to think of that poor little soul being treated so wickedly and with such callous disregard for her life. I am living in dread of hearing that this cruel, slow, death sentence is actually being carried out. How am I going to be able to go about my business, not to mention sleep at night? I couldn't treat an insect this way.
I beg of all of you who have any semblance of sanity, please don't let this happen.

Posted by: Eve at March 19, 2005 4:12 AM

why can,t they get an injunction against this by
using the fact that michael gave up his right to be guardian when he breached their marriage contract by committing adultry!

Posted by: tommy george at March 19, 2005 7:59 AM

They should put that feeding tube back in immediately and Michael should relinguish all guardianship and responsibility for Terri back to her parents. He should be given a divorce, annulment or whatever it takes to get him out of her life.

Posted by: Margie Lieberman at March 19, 2005 12:02 PM



Posted by: Charla at March 19, 2005 4:14 PM

How dare you people judge this man. You are going by gossip, lawyers (paid). This whole thing makes me ill. All of you have been used shamefully by by Terri"s parents, to the point that it now is going to cost this country thousands and thousands of dollars and WE have NO choice or SAY ?? Excuse me I SAY NO. She's MARRIED mom & dad her name IS Mrs. Schiavo enough already. Tamara.

Posted by: TJ at March 19, 2005 5:13 PM

Listen, Tamara, you liberal piece of crap! People like YOU are the reason why this country is going to hell in a handbasket. All of us are listening to FACTS of this case...not heresay, not speculation, not rumors....FACTS! And the facts say that Mr. Schiavo is LYING and is trying to MURDER a woman who is very much alive. Her dear "loving" husband that you talk about gave up his rights as a husband when he willfully chose to commit adultry and start a new family. Think about it. Enough said.

Posted by: J&V at March 19, 2005 10:46 PM

I AM A LIBERAL. And MICHAEL SCHIAVO STRANGLED his wife in 1990. look at her website, at her actual medical records of the FRACTURES. You can't get fractures from strangulation from "just falling down." The fact that he euthanized her cats also speaks volumes. He won his lawsuit and could have very easily left the care for her to her parents, but why ALL this fighting? What 26 year old talks explicitly about not having a feeing tube if they become comatose when there is actual testimony from one of Schiavo's next girlfriends that "they never talked about that?" That's not hearsay, that's in a deposition. That's not gossip.

The judge is clearly trying to justify his prior faulty and aberrant reasoning; see his earlier cases where he denied a woman a restraining order against her husband and she was murdered. Just because you are on one "side" or another doesn't mean you have to abandon all sense of reason and dignity in order to justify your "side."

Posted by: monica at March 20, 2005 11:17 AM

If there is no "Living Will", why is the Florida court allowing "hearsay" to set a dangerous precedent that may affect future unfortunate situations any of us may find ourselves in? I feel it is very suspect that the adulterous husband, Michael Schiavo, has denied all therapy, even medical treatment, for his wife, Terri. What is he hiding? Is he afraid Terri will reveal damaging information if she responds to therapy? And, last, but not least, if Terri dies, Schiavo stands to benefit from any remaining monies from the malpractice suit won on Terri's behalf.

Posted by: Barbara at March 20, 2005 12:02 PM

The amount of spin (read misinformation) in the blogsphere on this issue makes me sick!
Rohana, if all you say is true then why has the family and all of their lawyers not brought all this out in the open and in front of a court? You claim the mainstream media is ignoring this information. I find that hard to believe. If all you present were true and verifiable, I repeat, true and verifiable the media would jump all over this and Heraldo Rivera would be leading the charge.
Now congress is involved and this is turning into a replay of the movie Bonfire of the Vanities.

Posted by: Emmy at March 20, 2005 6:12 PM

What really amazes me is people who think this woman's husband (and I use the term with disgust) still has the right to make decisions for her. Let's be real, people who TRULY love someone would do what they can to see if there are ways to change a bad situation. Instead, as soon as Mr. Wonderful got some money, he said "no more treatment". What is that? Love? I don't think so. This man did not know Terri as long as her family had and what makes him the expert on what she would have wanted?
He wants the money, he wants to marry his baby's mama (who is by the way, as sick as he is if she's still with him).
He says he still loves Terri and this is how he shows it. There is an old saying we are all familiar with, if you love something, set it free...if he sets her free to those who really love her, then God will ultimately decide when it is her time to die. Oh yeah, I forgot, if he divorces her, he doesn't get the money.
Well, Michael Shiavo is not God, and he shouldn't have the right to make the decision only God can make.
Let's not forget, for those of you who say it is OK for him to starve her to death, DO YOUR RESEARCH! Studies show that death by starvation/dehydration is one of the MOST PAINFUL ways a person could die.
Gee, that's love??? I'd hate to see what would happen to something this murderer hated!

Posted by: Dreday at March 20, 2005 9:15 PM

This debate over Terri's food provisions and weather or not that source of nourishment should be suspended is most strange to me. The fornicating male that claims spousal privileges with her, which includes starving her, is nothing less than an arch fiend (or am I missing something here?) I have two daughters; love them dearly, would care for them no matter what demonic man married them, so perhaps I'm prejudiced in this discussion and possess valueless opinions.

I will say that I agree that politics have become enmeshed, but then, everything is politics. Just when I start wandering why I'm a Republican, the Democrats try to kill this woman (what do they think she is, just some unborn baby??) Then I remember, "Rex, you have no choice... those Dem's are debased and degenerate... no where else to go, ol' boy."

Posted by: Rex at March 21, 2005 2:10 AM

RE: Michael Schiavo, RN

One important note I haven't seen mentioned anywhere online is that Terri's husband is a licensed RN in the state of Florida (since 2000) and is 100% fully aware of the horrible effects of dehydration and starvation to her. If you go to the state of Florida Board of Nursing website and type in his name, you'll see his current licensure status as being active. The only reason I knew to do this is because I was in Clearwater on vacation several years ago and saw him on tv talking about his entry into the nursing field. I wonder when his idea of death by starvation/dehydration was formed, possibly while in nursing school?

Posted by: FL RN at March 21, 2005 5:58 AM

This is not about politics, this is about a husband who wants to kill his wife. Its murder. Her family wants to care for her, so let them! This monster is not her husband any longer, just on paper only, he stoped being her husband a long time ago, when money and other woman became more important to him than Terri. I have read where she won't respond with him around. What woman would when you know what they have done and are trying to do. I am just praying this has a good outcome for Terri and HER family.

Posted by: Alice at March 21, 2005 10:29 AM

Michael Schiavo did NOT commit purjry in his statments on Larry King live. I read this accusation in a blog site and then saw a replay of the King show late last night.
Schiavo was not stating his words, but was referring to the family's words when he said "We didn't know what Terri wanted but this is what we want" .
The claim of purjury may be a scrumptious sounding piece of gossip to some, but it is not accurate.

Posted by: Emmy at March 21, 2005 11:30 AM

Unfortunately this has been made into yet another Rep/Dem fight-when the real story is about a sociopathic animal trying to shield the murder of his wife behind a right-to-die movement.

It was sad to see the Democrats fall so easily into such an clearly well-laid out political trap.

All they had to do was take the time to look at Michael Schiavo's backround and the actual documentation of all those unusual fractures.

The documentation of Terri's fractures is all anyone has to see to realize the real story.

Instead they relied on their aides and the written opinion of judges, who probably relied on the written opinion of attorneys-somewhere along the line the humanity, the family involved in this struggle, got lost.

The Dems fell hook, line and sinker and didn't realize that they had been set up to look like the evil fall guy.

The Dems thought is was about right-to-die, the Reps knew it was about extending their right-to-life arguement.

And the real story is about Michael doing everything he can to shield his actions against Terri from ever seeing the light of day, and of Terri's loving parents doing everything to keep their daughter alive against a son-in-law whose been trying to shut her up permanently for 15 years.

Although I agree with the Dems that Republican altruism apparently cannot extend to other struggling people except for their multinational corporate friends (with their giant taxpayer funded corporate givaways), last night was not the time to agrue that case.

Sometimes the right answer comes from what appears to be the "wrong" side. The right answer can come from anywhere. You have to be the bigger person, forget partisanship and do the right thing.

This poor woman has been starved now twice and has gone through an indescribable hell for 15 years, all because of her evil "husband."

The Dems were disappointingly stupid for being set-up and arguing the wrong agruement at the wrong time for the wrong reasons.

The courts and the Dems have mistaken this man's intentions by avoiding looking into (or never taking into account) his backround and actions.

Noone can honestly say, noone who has ever been a caretaker, that anything Michael Schiavo has ever done resembles anything close to "care" or "mercy." Nothing.

Posted by: monica at March 21, 2005 1:38 PM

Unfortunately this has been made into yet another Rep/Dem fight-when the real story is about a sociopathic animal trying to shield the murder of his wife behind a right-to-die movement.

It was sad to see the Democrats fall so easily into such an clearly well-laid out political trap.

All they had to do was take the time to look at Michael Schiavo's backround and the actual documentation of all those unusual fractures.

The documentation of Terri's fractures is all anyone has to see to realize the real story.

Instead they relied on their aides and the written opinion of judges, who probably relied on the written opinion of attorneys-somewhere along the line the humanity, the family involved in this struggle, got lost.

The Dems fell hook, line and sinker and didn't realize that they had been set up to look like the evil fall guy.

The Dems thought is was about right-to-die, the Reps knew it was about extending their right-to-life arguement.

And the real story is about Michael doing everything he can to shield his actions against Terri from ever seeing the light of day, and of Terri's loving parents doing everything to keep their daughter alive against a son-in-law whose been trying to shut her up permanently for 15 years.

Although I agree with the Dems that Republican altruism apparently cannot extend to other struggling people except for their multinational corporate friends (with their giant taxpayer funded corporate givaways), last night was not the time to agrue that case.

Sometimes the right answer comes from what appears to be the "wrong" side. The right answer can come from anywhere. You have to be the bigger person, forget partisanship and do the right thing.

This poor woman has been starved now twice and has gone through an indescribable hell for 15 years, all because of her evil "

Posted by: monica at March 21, 2005 1:38 PM

Don't want to reiterate all the excellent points made by Terri supporters, but I'm just incredulous that Judge Greer (or any judge) would have made a life or death decision on "hear-say".
I truly believe that Michael Shiavo has earned all the bad karma he's sure to receive; there's a higher court that he'll answer to. What a supreme jerk.
I wonder if Terri's parents have looked into asking a priest or bishop or cardinal or whoever to annul their daughter's marriage based on the fact that the pig of a husband is a shameless adulterer. I know that it's possible for Catholics to have marriages annulled, since divorce isn't a viable option. He needs to be removed from their lives. He's a lying, scheming, and murderous piece of crap. I don't believe he cares about Terri one iota.
If anyone did to my daughter what he's done and continues to do, I'd probably be writing this e-mail from prison!
I pray for Terri and her family; what they've endured is unthinkable.
Also, I really never thought I'd have any thing positive to say about Jeb and George W., but . . . at least they seem to be right, just this once, and have more morals than I ever thought. Shame on the Democrats that couldn't see through the smoke and mirrors enough to vote to save Terri - hats of to the few Dems. that voted for her to have a chance.

Posted by: Linda at March 21, 2005 9:04 PM

Are we any better than Saddam Hussan, what kind of country is this all the evidence proves Michael Schiavo is a monster and everyone in courts just stands by and watches him kill his wife. I guess it is ok to kill your spouse as long as you have a good judge on your side, well I guess Scott Peterson should have payed Judge Greer and he would have gotten off to.

Posted by: Suzanne M Houseknecht at March 21, 2005 9:59 PM

Linda, go to the site below and read the results of the court appointed guardian's testimony. It will likely change your mind. There is a lot of rumor and inuendo out there, this transcript provides some truth.

Posted by: Emmy at March 21, 2005 10:14 PM


Posted by: SHEILA at March 22, 2005 3:01 AM

The thing that doesn't set well with me is the husband making the decisions for Terri. I don't know how long he has been living with the woman he is living with now and has a child by. But has it been long enough for her to be considered a common law wife? If so, he is akin to a bigamist and should not have any rights in Terri's case. What are his reasons for not divorcing Terri and marrying the other woman? Does he get some kind of monetary settlement if she dies?

It just doesn't seem right to me especially when the parents want to take care of Terri.

Posted by: Glenda at March 22, 2005 10:29 AM

Doesn't Michael believe that one day he will have to meet his maker along with Judge Greer and the lawyer and all of the lying and all of the money will not help to get them out of this one. It's murder, plain and simple.

Posted by: Bon at March 22, 2005 12:16 PM

What about the state of Florida? They are one of the biggest retiree communities in the country. They have millions of baby-boomers getting old and sick, many of whom will end up on state support. Wouldn't it be to their financial to set a precedent making it easier to pull the tube, plug, etc.? If what is being said about Gov. Bush is true (signing a bill allowing tube or plug to be pulled for non-payment in Texas), then maybe this is what is happening.

Mark Wyatt

Posted by: Mark Wyatt at March 22, 2005 12:44 PM

"Posted by: Suzanne M Houseknecht | March 21, 2005 09:59 PM

Linda, go to the site below and read the results of the court appointed guardian's testimony. It will likely change your mind.

I took a look. There is a lot of evidence that Michael did indeed try and save Terri's life initially, i.e., he took her to California for a special treatment and spent months there.

There are some facts that trouble me. The report mentions that he dated other women, but not that he is living with a woman with whom he has a child. Also, and this is a stretch

1. The rport, discussing the heart attack, and mentioning the arrival of the paramedics says,

"Despite heroic efforts to resuscitate, Theresa remained unconscious and slipped into a coma. "

2. I read elsewhere that Michael is certified in CPR. If this is not true, then the issue dissappears. But this coupled with (similar to the casemade in the article above):

"The cause of the cardiac arrest was adduced to a dramatically reduced potassium level in Theresa’s body. Sodium and potassium maintain a vital, chemical balance in the human body that helps define the electrolyte levels. The cause of the imbalance was not clearly identified, but may be linked, in theory, to her drinking 10-15 glasses of iced tea each day. While no formal proof emerged, the medical records note that the combination of aggressive weight loss, diet control and excessive hydration raised questions about Theresa suffering from Bulimia, an eating disorder, more common among women than men, in which purging through vomiting, laxatives and other methods of diet control becomes obsessive."

3. And the allegations of the nurse implying that he may have injected her with insulin in the care facility (evidence which as not put before the court according to a caller on the Laura Ingraham show today), makes you wonder what other explanations there are for the heart attack.

In any case, this all very circumstantial, but there is a life hanging in the balance here. Perhaps Michael Schiavo is just trying to "do the right thing", but I do not agree it is the right thing. I would like to see a full de novo (new) review of ALL the facts. If we are wrong about Michael, HE has many years to accept apologies. Terri does not.

Mark Wyatt

Posted by: Mark Wyatt at March 22, 2005 1:32 PM

It is obvious, to non-Americans anyway, that the USA has turned her back on God. So,if you are looking to the courts to dispense true moral justice, they will leave you frustrated. From what I have read from "actual" care-givers statements, this man DOES NOT have Terri's best interests at heart. I promise you that no one would do this to my daughter, as long as I was alive.
My advice to Terri's parents would be to
PROTECT YOUR DAUGHTER in ANY manner necessary.
I'm always reading where a parent has kidnapped his child. It happens everyday.
Don't wait for anyone to pull the plug on YOUR child!

Posted by: Chuck at March 22, 2005 1:51 PM

If anyone believes that Micheal Schiavo is "innocent" or has Terri's best interest at heart then I have some beach front property in Montana for sale!!! It was curious to me that the President of The United States would get involved in a court case, but after reading the court filings and testimony's of all who have had contact with Teri & Micheal Schiavo it's obvious a the nose on my face that the judge has an hidden agenda and not the unbiased attitude a judge SHOULD have when presiding over a case. If something smells bad it's usually a sign that there's something rotten swirling around. We may not know the extent of the judge's involvement or Micheal's or his lawyer Felos for some time,but eventually it will all come out.Unfortunatly Terri will not be around to have the satisfaction of seeing these bastards reap what they sowed!Something along the line of icewater and air-conditioning will be what they wish for I suspect & hope.

Posted by: tracey at March 22, 2005 3:14 PM

Go to Sean Hannity's website and listen to the interview with Dr. William Hammesfahr dated 3/21/05. This doctor is at the top of his field. He said Terri is not PVS! He examined Terri for a period of 10 hours over a three day period.

Also, go to

This is an interview with Terri's brother, Bob Schindler from 3/22/05.

Listening to both audio interviews made my blood run cold.

Posted by: Carol at March 22, 2005 3:51 PM

For those who are interested.

Here is the address for Michael Schiavo and Jodi Centonze: 2807 Marrie Ct.Clearwater, Fl 33761-3837;

The deed is in her name. This is the house that Terri's money bought.

You can look it up on the Pinellas County Property Appraiser. There is a nice aerial view of it. Very nice house for someone who claims not to have any money left.

Posted by: Carol at March 22, 2005 4:07 PM

What a lying bunch of crap. Anyone who reads this and falls for it, is dumber than you are.

Posted by: Jill at March 22, 2005 6:33 PM

You people should all be ashamed of yourselves for being so stupid. The Swindlers post a bunch of lies, and you idiots swarm over like flies on shit.

You all need to mind your own business, worry about your own lives and stay out of the personal lives of one sick and dying woman. Leave her and Michael alone, it's between them and their God and not you and your God. The Schindlers have become media whores, and wallow in this. They say long ago they didn't care what Terri's wishes are, they sound like Terri is a 12 year old and not an adult married woman. Terri didn't include her parents in her life after she was married, her parents didnt know she was trying to get pregnant or going to a doctor to get help with infertility. She had a lot of secrets she hid from her nosey interfering parents. One of the secrets was that she did not want to be kept alive on public display as she is now.

You pathetic low life people should just let her go. Fight for someone who has a chance at a normal life, what about all those unwanted kids out there in this country who need good homes? Go put your time and energy into providing a better life for a child who has a life to look forward too, and leave Terri alone, her life is over.

Posted by: Jill at March 22, 2005 6:42 PM

Well I must say that I have seen this fellow on T.V. and more importantly listened to what his words are....This guy is EVIL and Jill seems a bit Evil as well also...Name calling and angry rebuttle doesn't change the facts.
The guy is bad news he lied to get his settlement on the basis he needed money for Terri's rehab that is on record.He stalked former girlfriends that is a fact.It also is evident he beat the shit out of Terri and is trying to off her to keep her quiet ....I suspect a bit of street justice is in order in this situation and we will just have to wait and see....

Posted by: Jason at March 22, 2005 7:39 PM

The only evil ones are those meddling in Terri's life. Mind your own business. She'll be dead soon, and forgotten about by next year when you move onto your next crazy agenda.

Posted by: Jill at March 22, 2005 7:59 PM

People who've actually cared for sick and dying relatives would NEVER say any of the things you've said Jill, particularly about biologically related family members.

Quite telling of how little you know regarding the true agony family members go through concerning care for the dying.

We NEVER want them to suffer for a minute and this is why so many of us are are touched by this event, which apparently you aren't capable of understanding or worse, don't have the empathy ( in the first place) within you for those of us who have actually dealt with this in real life.

And as a matter of fact, Jill, the courts decisions will affect ALL of us, as it is setting precedent, particularly for those of us who may happen to make the mistake of not having a living will in the event that we become disabled like Terri. So it is ALL of our business.

And also, some of us have worked to make the lives of certain abandoned populations better. How would you know, just because we are very concerned that a possible murderer is hiding behind a right-to-die movement?

Posted by: monica at March 22, 2005 8:17 PM

Monica, you're wrong. I've been an RN for over 20 years. I've seen Terri and know her parents are wrong about what they say about her. Everyone should stay out of her personal life/

Posted by: jill at March 22, 2005 8:57 PM

Posted by: MICHAEL at March 22, 2005 9:00 PM

This Michael Schiavo guy is nothing but a monster.I think that he is actually responsible for her collapse.

Posted by: mia at March 22, 2005 9:46 PM

if 1/10th of what has been argued against this man is true.....then may God help him for I fear he may rot in hell.

Posted by: Richard Sievers at March 23, 2005 12:01 AM

Michael,what a piece of work.!!! You can tell in the video's that Terri is responding to her mother. Listen to the reputation of Dr.Baden, something is wrong here. That poor girl was under the hands of a seemingly cruel man, and we can all tell just how much love he had for her. Why just look at the affairs and children he has.He needs to let the parents have control of her care, that is until she can talk again, then we'll all know what really happened. Beckie from Springfield, Illinois

Posted by: Beckie Spencer at March 23, 2005 12:02 AM

Michael Schiavo is a digusting excuse of a human being. What comes around goes around.. and you will get yours, in this life or the next.

Posted by: Beth at March 23, 2005 10:59 AM

Some of you folks here are really misinformed. You believe all of the lies and deceptions told to you by your political leaders without looking to verify if they are true.

The Dr. that checked out Teri is listed under a quackwatch website.

Go to this non-partisan site to read all of the facts on this case.

I really can't believe that you folks believe this crap. This is nothing more that a political football being used by the congressional Republicans to throw up smokescreens over the real issues - Delay's violations of ethics rules being one.

Plesae people, let this be a lesson to you. You are being lied to by your leaders for their own political gain.

This is why Bush won the election. Many well meaning people have been duped by those whom they put their trust in.

The poster above who linked Sean Hannity must be nuts to think that anything this man says is true or factual. Time and time again the Republican pundits have been shown to lie and lie and lie, and people still believe them. Why?

The true tragedy is what led to Teri being put into this situation. I feel for her husband, her parents and her loved ones.

People need to stop demonizing Mr. Shaivo as well. All evidence shows that he sought to get her the best treatment available and after 8 years of her being in her condition, decided to fulfill her wishes. This has been brought to court again and again, has been appealled again and again.

Enough rambling. Folks, let this be a lesson that you should research things for yourself, before putting your fatih into blogs such as this one.

Posted by: Alex at March 23, 2005 11:25 AM

If he is such a "loving" husband, why doesn't he let her parents take care of her since that is their desire. Is he maybe the controlling person that his former girlfriend stated. I heard him say on Larry King this week that and I quote, "you can love two women at the same time." How many married women would accept this statement from their husband??

Posted by: Bon at March 23, 2005 11:57 AM


Thanks for Michael and Jody's address. I think it will be of interesting information to a lot of people.

Posted by: Bon at March 23, 2005 12:06 PM

Regarding Alex and the American People being duped is absurd.
Liberalisim is a mental disorder which is evident to anyone who has had to suffer through the last 50 years in this country of : Ending Poverty,Gay Rights,Gun Control,Illegal Aliens,Judges Using Heroin ( they must be to come up with the halfwitted rulings ), The Culture Of Death ( Only To The Helpless Of Course Not Anyone who Actually Deserves to Be Dead!)etc.
In the case of Terri we are supposed to let the " Courts Decide " well how special a bunch of Mentally Challenged Liberals making more inane policy from the Bench ( Read Playpen )
Lets pray that the Liberals continue to champion more causes such as killing Terri so we can finally be rid of the cancer that has destroyed America for the last Fifty years!Go Team!J

Posted by: Jason at March 23, 2005 1:08 PM

Alex - First off, I am not nuts for posting the link to Sean Hannity. I did do a lot of research probably more than you ever did. FYI: This is the first blog I have ever been to in my life, so you are wrong again on that account. Why are you readinge this blog if you don't like it, huh? Schiavo demonized himself.

I, like many others are only concerned about the circumstances leading up to this day when it comes to saving Terri's life. I could care less about the government being involved.

Have you ever had anyone starved to death, Alex?
I have seen two people I love die in that manner.

In 2001, I saw my last grandmother (Age:86) die a terribly painful death due to starvation & dehydration. She was recovering from a stroke,couldn't talk or swallow,and needed a feeding tube. Her daughter (POA & executor of her will) said no to the feeding tube. Poor Grandma would look you straight in the eye and try to talk. Grandma died two and half weeks later on Mother's Day. She was in God awful pain. She developed ulcers on her mouth and her tongue split open. Her daughter inherited EVERYTHING, split the family up, and never looked back. There is always a motive involved be it good or bad. Enough said.

Posted by: Carol at March 23, 2005 1:35 PM


Posted by: donna at March 23, 2005 3:08 PM


Yeah, Micheal Shiavo told me he would give me 100,000 for comming on this blog and speaking for him.

com'n now...

Perhaps you should read the link I posted and get the facts on the case.

Also, if Mr. Shiavo supposedly "beat his wife", why when he sued her Drs. and the case was scrutinized, was there never ever any evidence of that fact?

I don't know if Mr. Shiavo has a motive, there is no evidence of such. There is no proof, and this case has been scrutinized enough by the courts that some motive would have surfaced.

Does anyone know what of the $750,000 that was awarded Teri for her care is left?

Mr. Shiavo was offered 1 million to leave her in the care of her parents and he refused. So is money his motive, or is that just hearsay?


Your whole "Liberalism is a disease" statement is such a tired phrase that you parrot from Rush, Hannity, et al. What makes you assume that I am liberal?

In my opinion everyone is a bit liberal or conservaive based on the issue.

To live for ideology before truth and party before country is the state of the current Republican party. If the Dems. did the same, I would state the same.

What's with "go Team"? You see that is the problem. Many people put winning before truth and duty. This is not a sport event. This is about honoring the constitution, the country and the truth.

Liberalism is going nowhere. Since the beginning of man, folks will have severely liberal or conservative views, with everyone else lying somewhere in between the continuum.

Life is not black or white, and neither is this case with Teri.

What I find astonishing is that becasue I do not agree that the congress should have become involved that I am championing the casue of killing Teri.

How do you come to this conclusion? Do you not see the illogical connection there?

President Bush flew from Crawford texas to DC to sign off on this, when he could not do it in his own state. He signed off on the bill that actually gives the hospital the right to take someone off life support ahead of the legal gaudians wishes. It happened for a 6 month old baby named Sun Hudson. Where is your outrage?

Why the "flip-flop" by Bush? Could it be political expediency? Well, it quacks like a duck...

Also, if the case is that she is going to suffer; many Doctors have said that she will not feel anything becasue she is basically a brain stem and has no cognitive awareness to feel.

But if the case is that she will suffer, is anyone against euthanization?

Most of America overwhemingly agrees with my position that the congress had no business interefering in this case. This despite the dishonest propaganda campaign by the Republican pundits.

When did this become a political issue and why?

Posted by: Alex at March 23, 2005 3:11 PM

This is a very simple case. It is objectively
wrong to withhold ordinary food and care
from anyone, to cause their death.
NO ONE has that right. That is against the Moral
Law , and it is dramatically insufficient for
anyone to allow that to happen, whether in the
family or not. It does NOT contribute to
her comfort, a very horrifying death reminicent
of Nazi morality, and does NOT provide her with
a peaceful end to her tragic life.
This contest wants the courts to recognize
a Right to Kill as within the purview of
someone's judgment as to when the struggle for
life has reached its end. It is NOT. Her case
is NOT one of subjective judgment, but one of
objective principle that is as old as the
5th Commandment.
If our laws and institutions are not here to
preserve Life and protect it, then we have
NO civilization to speak of.

Posted by: Dan Murnane at March 23, 2005 4:15 PM

This post is for the poster Rohana regarding Terri Schaivo.

We run an independent, alternative monthly news magazine in the southern Illinois/Indiana area with a local circulation of over 4,000 and nationwide subscriptions. We print all sides of the issues but are particularly keen on getting the word out that mainstream media refuses to do. We have a national page that we try to fill with subjects that get overlooked by MSM and we are interested in covering the Schaivo issue since MSM has done little with the facts.

We would like permission from Rohana to run her information in our next scheduled paper. I cannot access Rohana by clicking on her name at the "posted by" link as my email is not set up to link that way. I am respectfully requesting Rohana contact me at; my name is Angela and we are very interested in hearing from Rohana.

Thank you.
Angela H.

Posted by: Angela H. at March 23, 2005 5:02 PM

This whole state of affairs is so sad. I feel so terrible for Terri's parents.

Their child is literally dying a slow, cruel death without her feeding tube, and not a single court ruling will listen to reason.

Michael has many skeletons in his closet, from being a wife-beater, to a stalker, to an adulterer. These are all documented events, and for the life of me, I can't imagine how these judges sleep at night.

Michael should definitely watch his back. Bodyguards or not, someone is sure to take him down. My only wish would be that he doesn't die, but is instead, left in a crippled, vegitative state. And I'd personally volunteer to remove his own feeding tube, that S.O.B.

All because Michael's father was too cheap to spend a dollar on a condom when Michael was conceived, the rest of the civilized world is forced to tolerate such a low-life monster.

Posted by: Bob at March 23, 2005 5:51 PM

Alex-No one has done a brain scan on Terri's brain. She does feel pain. She does have the cognitive ability to feel. She is locked in. Do you know what that means? Whenever she had her periods she would moan out in pain and use her arms to motion towards her abdomen. You need to find the nurse's affidavit and read it.

As for the 6 month old baby named Sun Hudson, that is terrible, but he was slowly dying . I went to the link you posted and it said he was slowly dying and had dwarfism. Comparing Terri to Sun is like comparing apples to orange. Terri is not dying until her feeding tube was forcibly remove.

Michael should turn over guardianship to those who still love her. Lucky for him, he has a wife waiting in the wings, and two young children.

Posted by: Carol at March 23, 2005 7:16 PM

Upon conducting more research, please check out the following link:

You have to scroll down a bit since the partially scanned image of Terri's bone scan skewed the story. It is about events that happened after Terri's collapse.

It is very interesting.

Posted by: Carol at March 23, 2005 7:31 PM

I found Terri's bone scan from 1991, that was missing in the previous link I had listed.

This is why Michael Schiavo wants her dead, and cremated without an autopsy.

Posted by: Carol at March 23, 2005 7:42 PM

Michael a bad monster? probably. That's really not the main issue though, It is hard to believe that terry would like to be laying on her back for another 20 years in the condition she is in, would she like to be starved to death? Most likely not, so we mortals have no great solution, what are we to do? I have no clue, obvious to everyone is Michael with all his affairs should no longer have a say in whatever is done, somehow the state should be able to overturn the marriage and give custody back to the biologic parents. Do they really want to take care of her the way she is for another 20 years? Not my buisness, they brought her into this world though, and should have the higher ground than a guy that married her and possibly inflicted some if not all of her problems. As a mere mortal I can't place a value on her life, If it were my daughter I would probably die from emotional trauma seeing her in this kind of state for so long, I could not possibly pull the plug on her. It's a tough problem with no defined right answer for everyone, Michael should definetly be out of the equation though, if he really loved terry there could be no shame in handing the care over to her parents and walking away.

Posted by: ken at March 23, 2005 7:42 PM

This is a very sad day for all Americans that live in this country. It is now legal to starve someone to death just because, just because what? Because my husband said so? My God, my God! Shame on you Judge Greer. The blood of this woman is on your hands. If I remember right, a family went before a leader of a country to have their horrible disfigured and retarded son's life support stopped. The leader agreed. His name? Adolf Hitler.

Posted by: Mary at March 23, 2005 10:08 PM

This is a very sad day for all Americans that live in this country. It is now legal to starve someone to death just because, just because what? Because my husband said so? My God, my God! Shame on you Judge Greer. The blood of this woman is on your hands. If I remember right, a family went before a leader of a country to have their horrible disfigured and retarded son's life support stopped. The leader agreed. His name? Adolf Hitler.

Posted by: Mary at March 23, 2005 10:08 PM





Posted by: Marian at March 23, 2005 11:51 PM

GOOD FOR YOU LISA! You are among the few people who have bothered to get the facts and consider them reasonably.

Posted by: Emmy at March 24, 2005 12:12 AM

Carol (with Bon in agreement) if your reason for posting Michael Schiavo's information was done so you and others could send hate mail and/ or etc. then shame on you.
Be indignant if you must, go protest if you wish (misguided as it may be) but leave it at that. Actions or suggestion of action against M. Schaivo are way out of line and would probably be illegal if done in the vein in which you seem to indicate.

Alex and Jill, you are my new heros.

Posted by: Emmy at March 24, 2005 1:30 AM

conservative, liberal has nothing to do with anything. it's just rhetoric. labels are meaningless. i'm not sure of the history of this case or of what investigation has been done, but it appears that the husband of terri is not in a position to decide her fate, and if terri's mom & dad are willing to care for her, then it should be allowed. i pray truth and love will prevail. love is not based on feeling, but on willingness to put someone else before self. there is nothing like the love of sincere parents. for God (our parent) so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son (Jesus Christ the elder brother of those who've received Christ Jesus' gift of salvation), that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life! Thank God death is swallowed up in victory for the believer, for the dead in Christ shall rise first! Surely the hell, and the hellions, on earth should convince anyone to receive salvation to avoid eternal damnation. today is the day of salvation, tomorrow is not promised! make your decision now! my humble prayer is for divine intervention, salvation, and comfort for terri and terri's loved ones. Lord touch terri's husband and loose salvation. God's will be done in this case! Life, in the name of Jesus!

Posted by: concerned individual at March 24, 2005 2:01 AM

Michael is strickly looking after his own interest. If he cared for his wife as much as he states he did/does he'd allow her family access. He also states that his wife Terry is not "there" and hasn't been for 13 years, if that's the case then what is he arguing about? Let her family look after what in his words is "not there".
In closing, two people created this child (Terry), and their love will never fade, never die and never faulter and after having said that, who in this whole world would have her best interests at heart better than those two people?

Hey Michael, explain the injury's the doctor's have reported on your wife defenceless body.

Posted by: Patricia at March 24, 2005 2:08 AM

To Emmy - First off, I do not know why I bother, but here is goes.

I reread my post (maybe you should do the same) with Mr. Schiavo's address included. No where does it imply that I want anyone to write to him or cause him harm. I want people to see how he is living in his very nice house. His address is public information that I found listed on a business document posted on the net, then I looked up on the county website. I also found a document with his home phone, yet I didn't post that did I? So,stand down and shut up!

Last I checked, I am a legal adult over the age of 21,and I do not need dressed down by the likes of you. Voice your misguided opinions if you must. Maybe you should go to a site that defends HIM. Wouldn't that make better sense? Is that too much for you to wrap your empty mind around?

You didn't read all of my postings or maybe you did and only picked out things to bitch about. I had someone die like Terri who didn't deserve it! You just don't get it. Been there done that.

Yes,you most definitely fit the profile of someone who desparately needs to have "heroes" even if they are the hate filled likes of Alex and Jill.

Afterall, it is the United States where we have the right to freedom of speech and the right to be utterly stupid and ignorant.

Posted by: Carol at March 24, 2005 10:30 AM

For those who care about Terri and care about the truth, please go to

Go to the Update section and read the PDF document name Neurologist for DCF - Terri not PVS.

This document is dated 3/25/2005.

Just heard the Supreme Court will do nothing to help Terri.

Posted by: Carol at March 24, 2005 10:34 AM


Posted by: Lao Wei at March 24, 2005 11:07 AM

DCF filed a petition wtih Judge Greer.

The petition is at the link below:

Posted by: Carol at March 24, 2005 11:21 AM

Typo for the dated listed on Neurology report.

Date is 3/23/2005.


Posted by: Carol at March 24, 2005 11:57 AM

There is no doubt that this case is going to have profound implications for the future...a "legal" spouse will now in the future have the right to starve a person to death if he/she wishes...all I know is if a person starved a pet or animal to death by withholding feedings and waterings, they would probably be sent to prison for years...I think if anything can be learned from this criminal act done by the judge and the want to be murderer husband, is that we all must get living wills, or in my case, "wills of living" because feeding a person is not extraordinary happens to hundreds of thousands of fellow Americans every single day...I hope that someone breaks in there and finds a way to feed Terri because I see civil war in our future...this is actually a case against the "pro Life, moral, religious (and it doesn't matter what religion, christian, jewish, moslem) part of our country and the liberal, secularist, atheistic part (headed of course by the biggest enemy of our country, the ACLU). I have no doubt who will win this war, just as Bush won the last election, but I have a feeling it will be a lot bloodier...God help you who condone murder, because when the real war starts, God will be the only one who will be able to help you...

Posted by: Dave at March 24, 2005 12:01 PM

Dave - Very well put. Thank you

Posted by: Carol at March 24, 2005 12:07 PM

Thank you for your complement Carol...all those who believe in "life" have a stake in this case...and this case is going to cause a groundswell of momentum against the liberal, securists of this country...there are times when each person must stand up for what he/she believe, and there are times when a person must also be willing to fight and/or die for what he/she believes...our brave soldiers are in Iraq and other countries right now fighting for our freedom...there may soon come a time when we ourselves must do the same to stay free here at home...

Posted by: Dave at March 24, 2005 12:21 PM

Hey all, better watch what info you post for the address and email of Michael Schiavo. There is more than one Michael Schiavo in the U.S.A. If found on the web a Michael Schiavo who writes poetry and has been receiving nasty emails and is getting quite upset about it, since they have the wrong Mr. Schiavo! Is the info you provided correct??? Better make sure...RESEARCH PEOPLE before your send things to the wrong person.

I also have another question....How does a confidential medical record like a bone scan be available for the public to read and post on this site??

Posted by: Lisa at March 24, 2005 12:22 PM

First off folks let's have a big round of applause for our guests here, Jill, Alex and their personal "Moe" Emmy.......there ya go folks, the lefts answer to the Three Stooges sans Comedic Content.

Now onto todays question:

Should Terris "husband", along with his lawyer Felos and that bastard greer have their "feeding tubes removed"?

Now before we get you back to our regularly scheduled programming we have a prize for our no talent contest winners the "Moon Stooges" Jill, Alex and Emmy, you have won your very own Glass Belly Button, (installation not included) so that you can get a good look at the world from that dark smelly hole that your heads so obviously inhabit.

Thanks for reading folks, we now return you to the Terri Schiavo Wrongful Death Watch, brought to you by todays Democratic Party, motto: "We Will Kill You Dead When You're Useless" and also brought to you by SoyScience...Bring You The Food of Tomorrow Soon.

Posted by: Kender at March 24, 2005 12:51 PM

Lisa - Yes, rest assured the address I posted was Michael Schiavo's actual address in Clearwater, Florida. It is listed under his girlfriend's name, Jodi Centonze. I first found it listed on a business document for Jerger and Centonze Insurance Agency. This document listed Michael and Jodi as owners or chairpeople of this business. Under each of their names, was listed thier address as I stated above.

Sorry to hear that the poet, Michael Schiavo, is getting nasty emails. I never posted his email address. I feel bad for him.

How does any one this confidential stuff make its way onto the net? Someone probably scanned it into a pc and emailed to a journalist.

Thanks, but I do know how to research!

Posted by: Carol at March 24, 2005 12:54 PM

Kender to the rescue! Thank you so very much!

Posted by: Carol at March 24, 2005 1:00 PM

Kender to the rescue!

Posted by: Carol at March 24, 2005 1:01 PM

The Schiavo case is a clear case of court sponsored abuse against women by their adulterous and abusing husbands. This case sends a strong message that a man can abuse his wife [proof from medical records] and the good ole' boys club will protect them. The Judge and other officials in this case need to be INVESTIGATED as well as Michael Schiavo for their role in this "right to murder" case. When the courts rule in favor of a man who refuses needed and humane care for his wife and allows his criminally neglegent treatment of her to go unpunished, something is amiss. Follow the money trail! If Micahel Schiavo wants to live life with another woman, then he should divorce his wife, not kill her. He could divorce her, walk away, leaving her care in the hands of her very willing, able and loving family who truly do want what is best for her and never look back. Arguement over! What would it hurt Michael to divorce her and leave her care in the hands of family members? That is the $Million Dollar Question!

Posted by: Karen at March 24, 2005 1:05 PM

Karen you summed it up all perfectly. They is exactly the way I feel.

Women are not disposable in the US.

In OHIO, a crazed husband couldn't stand the fact his wife was divorcing him. It was her week to live a local motel, because they were sharing the home every other week. He went to the motel beat her with a flashlight, strangled her unconcious and tried to drown her. He was arrested and let out on bail. Three weeks later, he hid in her van and shot her point blank in the head. She survived! One bullet is still in her skull and she is blind in one eye. She has two young boys to care for. While the husband was awaiting trial, he put out a hit on her, but he didn't know he solicited an uncover cop. This maniac only got 30 years.

Posted by: Carol at March 24, 2005 1:20 PM

Impeach Judge Greer by signing the on line petition.

The signatures have doubled in less than a week. Over four thousand have signed it in 24 hours.

Posted by: Carol at March 24, 2005 1:26 PM

To everyone(especially Jill and the rest of the Three Stooges) who is in favor of Micahel Schiavo and believes Terri isn't feeling a thing, do not eat for a week. You would be doing a favor for all of us.For The Three Political Stooges personal attacks on fellow blogers, such as Carol, prove you have no FACTS but only opinions.That is a lame ass way to get your opinion heard. Where are your facts? In any great debate you have to enforce your view with facts.
P.S.; Does RN stand for real nimrod?

Posted by: kristen at March 24, 2005 1:52 PM

To everyone(especially Jill and the rest of the Three Stooges) who is in favor of Micahel Schiavo and believes Terri isn't feeling a thing, do not eat for a week. You would be doing all of us a favor. For The Three Political Stooges, personal attacks on fellow blogers, such as Carol, prove you have no FACTS but only opinions.That is a lame ass way to get your opinion heard. Where are your facts? In any great debate you have to enforce your view with facts.
P.S.; Does RN stand for real nimrod?

Posted by: kristen at March 24, 2005 1:55 PM

It is a sad day in the history of mankind when an innocent person is sentenced to death. With all the truths about the abusiveness of her spouse, our justices and courts cannot allow a simple matter of letting someone have sustainance to live. People of this character are a disgrace to mankind. The Angels are now looking after the well being of Terri Schindler.
May God have mercy.

Posted by: John at March 24, 2005 2:02 PM

Hey....Kender.....If you can't keep it clean then maybe you should stay off.
Resorting to name calling would indicate that some have run out of reasonable arguments. Not surprising. Even the main stream press is now commenting on the amount of misinformation circulating on this issue. Just because something is written on a blog does not make it fact.
I thought perhaps this blog would be a venue for debate, but I guess some wish to have it only to express thier views and only want to hear from those who agree with them.
In an ealier comment someone referenced Adolf Hitler, isn't that how Hitler took control, by censuring or eliminating those who disagreed with him?

Posted by: Emmy at March 24, 2005 3:04 PM

Emmy - you are a hypocrite to the nth degree!

One of your much needed heroes, Jill, has a foul mouth and called people names. You have no right to tell others to "clean it up".

Blogs don't make it fact,yet links/url to the facts (ie, court documents, affidavits, medical records, etc.)make it fact. Quite preaching to choir already.

Do you even give a damn about Terri? Does it bother you that Judge Greer never laid eyes on her by having her appearing in his court. Even a criminal gets his day in court.

Posted by: carol at March 24, 2005 3:58 PM

Debate is always welcome.

Calling Terri's parents "Swindlers" while she is dying is the cruelest thing I have ever seen. What's the point? Where is the compassion?

We can always agree to disagree.

No matter how you slice it, it is truly a shame to see a disabled person die, because they so not have a voice.

Posted by: carol at March 24, 2005 4:04 PM

If she dies there should be an autopsy if only to avoid the "appearance of impropriety".

Posted by: Reenie at March 24, 2005 4:32 PM

Actually I wanna be Larry of the three stooges. He is a very underrated Stooge, and I felt he has never recieved his due.

Well, it seems that rationality has gone out the window and "true colors" come out in people when their beliefs are tested.

what I will do is list the hypocrisy of the Republican party, and my hope is to enlighten people that they will look at things objectively and get off of the the "hate Libs" bandwagon. It is the new sickness as evidenced by "DAVE" who may just have to pull out his guns and shoot a lib in the name of the lord.
Seek help guy. Besides, this issue trancends ideology, and many conservatives and liberals agree with my position.

Republican leadership hypocrisy list:

1. The tort reform that the Republicans passed in the senate, capping the amount that can be awarded in lawsuits, is the exact same kind of lawsuit that has kept teri Shiavo alive all these years.

2. Republicans supported rushing to go to a war of "choice", not erring on the side of life by allowing the inspectors to finish their WMD inspections. The result = the death of up to 100,000 innocent Iraqis, and 1525 US soldiers, thusfar.

3. Republicans, staunch supporters of states rights, have intervened in a situation that is private, personal, and painful for those involved and have abused their power by bringing this issue to the federal level. 75% of people polled believe they where wrong to do this, including 2/3 of evangelical Christians.

4. 20,000 people die everyday on this planet due to poverty, yet there is no "crusade" to rid us of the biggest killer on this planet, nor a push to insure the millions of children in our country who go without health care.

5. Bush signed a bill in '99 that the hospital has the right to pull the plug, even over the opposition of family members.

6. Bush flies overnight to DC to sign the Teri proposal, yet he takes 4 days before responding to the Tsunami that killed over 200,000 people.

Well, the list goes on but I have to leave work.

My question to those here is, why do you assume that because someone is against the congress intervening that we are "pro-murder"? A stretch no?

If GOV. Bush decided to send a swat team in there to rescue her, well that is a state issue, no need to intervene.

My personal opinion, as one of deep faith, is that She should be allowed to die as painlessly as possible.

Why? Becasue, she is right now in a living purgatory. Her soul and mind are non-functioning and are laying in wait to be with God. Why are we keeping her in this state of living purgatory? She will never regain any sence of conciousness. She has nothing but a brain stem. Brain matter cannot be regenerated, nor does it grow back. When it is gone, it is gone.

We should pray for her, for when she departs from Earth, we can have solace that she is sitting in heaven, free from the ball and chain of her physical state. Her soul will be in heaven with God, which is hopefully where we all will go.

Why keep her from everlasting life?

Posted by: Alex at March 24, 2005 5:44 PM

This man should be investigated. Please read my opinion at

Posted by: christmasghost at March 24, 2005 6:48 PM

Alex - Good choice of Stooge. Yes, Larry was underrated. Trivia: He spent his paycheck before he got it, and always bummed money from Moe Howard, which he never repaid. Larry died penniless.

Why do people pull the political card out on every subject? I could care less what party you support. What does it have to do with Terri?

Yes, Terri has brain damaged and brain cells don't regenerate. But miracles do happen! Dr. Cheshire for the DCF said Terri is not PVS,yet minimally conscious state, which is a better prognosis. Terri still has her cerebral cortex as stated in the following neurology report for DCF dated 3/23/05.

The second time her tube was removed she went six days without food. I want to believe she will be alright.

Your last paragraph says it all. Isn't it ironic that she is starving so close to Easter? She will give a new meaning to Easter.

Posted by: Carol at March 24, 2005 7:03 PM

It's amazing, we let OJ live and kill Terri. Our government is a complete mess.

Posted by: dvoet at March 24, 2005 8:02 PM

Just thinking out loud.

I just wonder if Michael Schiavo has visited Terri in the last week to say "goodbye".

You'd expect that from the husband who was so adamant about fulfilling her wishes.

Posted by: carol at March 24, 2005 8:46 PM

I am amazed by the things I read and hear regarding this case. First off DCF is all good to people when they are trying to stop a "court ruling" that mandates someone be removed from life support. Yes the feeding tube is just as much life support as a breathing tube is. Terri will die with out the aide of the feeding tube just as the 6 month old baby and many others die everyday without the aide of a breathing tube. Starving to death or gasping for air, is one more humane than the other? This is the same DCF that has been under scrutiny for many reasons including returning many many children to the very same homes they took them from. By returning these children they sentenced them to a truly horrible death.

I hold no regard for DCF. As for Michael & Terri's parents I do not know them and have no right to judge any of them. I have followed this issue from the very beginning. Yes Michael has a girlfriend, yes she has his children, however to compare him to Scott Petersen? Michael did not have a girlfriend he had been involoved with when Terri fell ill. In fact he lived with her parents for 2 years afterwards. Because he is human and needs companionship does not a monster make. I feel if he really wanted rid of Terri so that he could move on with his life he a very long time ago would have divorced her, given gaurdianship of her to her parents, or just walked away with all this money people seem to think is lasting forever. He did not, he went to the courts asked them to decide what course of action should be taken. The court acting as a guardian decided that the "life" (if that's what people call it)that Terri is living is not what she would have wanted. The court made this decision not Michael, and he can not stop it even if he wanted to.
No I do not profess to know what if any is the "right" or "wrong" thing to do here what I know is that I currently have a bedridden 87 year old grandmother with alzhiemers whom I love very much. My mother takes care of her, I spent absoultely as much time as I can with her, feeding her, changing her, manicuring her nails, bathing her, talking to her, spending many nights awake all night long with her. She can no do anything for herself, she does not get out of bed ever. She most of the time does not even know I am there. There is a very selfish part of me that wants her to be alive forever. But when I look at the "quality" of her life, I know deep in my heart she would not want to live ANY part of her life like this. NO she never expressed that to me "in those words" but there was a time she refused to move to Florida because "everyone moves there to wither and die" and that was not what she wanted.

The one thing I do know after all this is that a living will for me will be on file with my Dr, it will be in my glove box, my purse, my Mother will have a copy, as will my children, my Fiance', and anyone else I can think of. Because I choose not to be sustained by ANY type of treatment that I could not live without for the rest of my life I do not want people to keep me alive because they could not bear to lose me, and I do not want anyone to be scrutinized the way he has. And I damn sure do not want the courts of the government of this country determining my fate.

Posted by: no sides taken at March 24, 2005 9:39 PM

Emmy...the facts have been stated ad nauseum, yet you refuse to acknowledge them....we aren't going to change your mind or make you see the truth of are utterly incapablof comprehending what we are saying plus you seem to have not one shred of humanity.

I refuse to bang my head against my monitor because you are, quite honestly, an imbecile.

Just to point out the one salient fact that seems to have escaped you...I didn't call you a name....I "intimated" that you were akin to Moe Howard, a very funny and, for his time, cutting edge comedian, however I did note that you lacked any comedic value, therefore likening you to a stooge.

I also alluded to the fact that your head is in your ass. However from the kindness of my heart I did offer you a solution to your problem, which is more than you have ever offered here, or anywhere else for that matter, if, that is, I were to discount the offers you most undoubtedly make while you are "working" on "your" corner.

Now go home little girl, or learn to play nicely.

Or shall I say worse?

BTW, to get an idea of just who it is that you have so boldly stepped up against, google "kender", find the "Kencyclopedia" and check the right hand sidebar under "taunts".

Posted by: Kender at March 24, 2005 11:53 PM

I think I know why Michael Schiavo may have a motive to have Terri die. He probably has taken insurance policies out on her. His is listed as a director of Jerger and Centonze Insurnace Agency. This is where his girlfriend, Jodi works (and probably a partner) also. He told insurance out on her prior to "remembering" she didn't want to live like that.

Check out the below link. It is the third email from the beginning

Posted by: Carol at March 25, 2005 1:40 AM

Correction to my last posting:

Maybe he took insurance out on her prior to "remembering" she didn't want to live like that.

Posted by: carol at March 25, 2005 2:05 AM

Yes Kender, I did get the point of you message about having a glass belly button. How original.

I looked at your site. Grow up kid.

Now, do you have some point of the Schiavo issue you would like to debate? Becasue so far you haven't offered any.

Posted by: Emmy at March 25, 2005 3:48 AM

Further Kender I feel deeply for the Schindlers and Michael Schiavo. For their loss of Terri and for their loss of freindship. At one time they were very close and worked side by side for Terri after her colapse. Somewhere along the way they lost that friendship. Sad to say.

Posted by: Emmy at March 25, 2005 4:00 AM

I truly understand the right to die, and I also believe that there are various issue's in each individual case that need to be considered. My concern with this particular case is that Terri's family is so resistant to Michaels decision. This is not a case that has been discussed for weeks or months, but years.

Not fully understanding Michaels wishes, or rational behind his decision, makes me question.. why not just let the parents take care of her? I agree the courts should not be involved in this situation the way that they have, however, imagine the torment of your child dying and not being able to stop it...
What a horrible situation this really is.

Terri truly can't speak for herself.. again she is another voice that can't be heard..
What if she can hear everything?
I know this is all speculation, and we will never know Terri's true wishes....
but now, being the talk of the country, is she truly dying a peaceful death..? she has minimal people at her side.. and.. the decision to "let her die" is also killing the family and many other americans. Maybe in this situation ..(this individual case regarding the right to die,) becuase it is so draumatized, the best answer would be to concede and let the family take care of her. I don't believe she is suffering in any way at this point. Remember,according to the experts, she is in a PVS, so what would she care if she stayed alive another 10 years?

Posted by: dvoet at March 25, 2005 9:30 AM

This shouldnt be a liberal or conservative isssue.I myself am liberal on somethings and conserv. on others.This is an issue of should someone be killed on hear say.With no hard facts as to terri,s wishes the judge should have ruled on the side of discretion and chose life.This judge has proven to me he is not capable of making common sense or ethical decisions.Micheal is what he is(a sorry woman beater and an intimidator)you cant change that but the government should be protecting terri from him

Posted by: jim at March 25, 2005 9:48 AM

Check out this article that I found. I thought it was very interesting

Posted by: Carol at March 25, 2005 12:08 PM

Please prayer for Terri. She is all I can think about. I hope Jeb will rescue her before it is too late.

Posted by: Carol at March 25, 2005 12:10 PM

Emmy? There is not one shred of debate with boils down to the fact that even though terris family will take care of her michael wtill wants to murder don't understand teh sanctity of life apparently.....simple premise.

Posted by: Kender at March 25, 2005 12:12 PM


WHY DO WE HAVE LAWS IN THE FIRST PLACE? WHY DO WE PROTECT PEOPLE'S LIVES(in most cases!)? Why do we have crosswalks, Judge Whittemore, or traffic signals, or car safety belts, or emissions standards, or prisons..why? I assume it's TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM DYING? Why do we try to prevent them from dying or being killed? Does perhaps the TERRIBLE EMOTIONAL ASPECT INFLICTED ON THE FAMILIES in the event that someone dies a tragic death or is murdered have anything to do with why laws are created in the first place? Why bother with ANY laws since the courts can't take "emotional rhetoric" into account?

Why don't these judges get it? They give lip-service, but they truly don't when they say things like this. It's ALL about "emotional rhetoric." There is NO divorcing emotion from any aspect of this "case," and this is the grave mistake these courts have made, with the exception of the dissenting opinions. Reason without emotion results in this tragedy. These judges (except the dissenting) refuse to acknowledge the terrible emotional toll on this family, etc. Because he's not allowing "emotion," the courts in effect are committing murder. Sorry. The application or Reason without Emotion is: eugenics.

Posted by: monica at March 25, 2005 12:21 PM

Sorry!!->The missing quote I was referring to from my last post:

In the federal court hearing Thursday, Schindler lawyer David Gibbs III argued that Terri Schiavo's rights to life and privacy were being violated. Whittemore interrupted as Gibbs attempted to liken Schiavo's death to a murder.

"That is the emotional rhetoric of this case. It does not influence this court, and cannot influence this court. I want you to know it and I want the public to know it," Whittemore said.

Posted by: monica at March 25, 2005 12:23 PM

Jill and Alex are stone cold, and hartless as michael Schiavo he is a stone cold killer, and the goverment dont care. Does anyone got michaels email adress ? Maybe he is not in it for the mony but to silence her. An autopsy is at MUST!!! Other killers get i jail, he walks free ?? What judicical system

Posted by: Me at March 25, 2005 1:02 PM

I just read a news article that Michael Schiavo's works as an ER nurse at a Florida hospital.

Posted by: carol at March 25, 2005 6:29 PM

You really don't have to take the research thing personally....I just wanted to make sure some innocent person isn't getting bashed for something he didn't do. It's quite obvious you are obsessed with this case. I also did research into the court records of this case and I'm trying to keep an open mind which I don't see a whole lot of on this site. You people get down right nasty when someone doesn't see things your way. Everyone has a right to her/his own opinion. And I personally don't like to assume or judge other people, especially in a case where there is so much inconsistancy and controversy, unless I am personally involved in the situation.

Posted by: Lisa at March 25, 2005 11:13 PM


I do not understand why you are trying to pick a bone with me. I don't know you and you don't know me, so don't address your assumptions and accusations to me. I am concerned about Terri period. Anyone with a pulse would be concerned for a innocent, disabled person who doesn't have a voice to be heard.

You just stated "And I personally don't like to assume or judge other people, especially in a case where there is so much inconsistancy and controversy, unless I am personally involved in the situation." The tone of your post to me slightly sounds like you are judging me.

If you read all my posts, you would have discovered that I lost my grandma the exact same way Terri is killed. I am reliving my grandmother's unnecessary death all over again.
Also, I was a victim of domestic violence. I speak from experience. So,leave me alone.

FYI: I grew up in Law enforcement. My father was a police detective for over 20 years. He taught his kids to always look for clues & motives, and always be suspicious. With the skills he taught me, I have good track record figuring out cases. If it smells fishy, it is.

Posted by: Carol at March 26, 2005 12:19 AM

It seems as if the courts are going to be allowed to kill Terri... The jig apparently is up, folks...
My fervent hope is that the Schindler family buries this piece of dirt Michael Schiavo in wrongful death lawsuits so deep and so extensive that he won't see the financial light of day for the rest of his natural life... I hope they legally kill off any remanants of a normal life for this monster. If I were the Schindler siblings, I would make this my life's work...

Posted by: Rick at March 26, 2005 10:42 AM

I question why the media reports we are hearing and the judicial rulings being handed down are only focussing on the specifics of the "right-to-die" issue between Michael Schiavo and the Schindlers. There is so much more to this story than most people are aware of.

I'm tired of hearing comparisons to other cases of the same situation, where the original injuries and cause can be conclusively proven to be of an accidental nature, such as a motor vehicle of workplace accident.

This is NOT the situation with the Schiavo case. There is far too much that literally STINKS here, and we're not hearing a single thing about it from the media.

Terri's original injury in itself is suspicious in nature. Her husband hears a "thud" in the middle of the night, and finds Terri unconscious on the floor. Medical personnel have documented that her brain lacked oxygen for a period of 6-8 minutes, consistent, and most-commonly caused by the trauma of attempted strangulation.

It is also documented that Terri had gone to her girlfriend's home just hours before in tears, speaking of a severe domestic dispute between Michael and herself. Terri detailed information about Michael's ongoing and continuous verbal and physical abuse, and expressed her desire and intent to file for divorce.

The girlfriend advised Terri to stay the night and not go home, but Terri told her that she feared Michael's wrath is she didn't go back home. Four hours later, she was in the hospital.

* Within 18 months of Terri's "accident", Michael began dating Cyndi Shook, who has provided a deposition regarding Michael's posseviness and charactor. In that deposition, Cyndi explains having asked Michael is Terri would want to live this way, to which he allegedly replied, "How the hell should I know? I was only 25. We never talked about anything like this."

The entier deposition can be found here:

* In the several years that followed, Michael won two large cash settlements in court cases related to Terri's condition and care totalling over $1.8 million. The second settlement, $1.2 million, was intended to provide for treatment and rehabilition physical therapy for Terri.

The money was never used for that purpose. Michael "spirited" her off to the Woodside Hospice in the middle of the night, without the knowledge or consent of the family or the courts. This was done without proper authorization or notification of a terminal illness, as required by the courts. Coincidently, both Michael and his lawyer, George Felos, were high-ranking executives of a holding company which owned the hospice.

* Nursing staff at the Woodside Hospice have detailed that Michael refused to allow medications and therapy for Terri, as the funds obtained from the cash settlement required. Michael intimidated the staff, and it was common knowledge that "You do as Michael says - or be terminated."

Two nurses from Woodside have provided affidavits supporting these facts. They can be found here:

Carla Sauer Iyer:

Heidi Law:

* There was a third nurse at Woodside, Carolyn Adams, who seemed to have an inordinate number of patients die during her watch. She was very close to Michael. She is quoted as saying, "She's costing Michael a lot of money while she's alive, and he's complaining about that a lot."

* Terri's tending physician at Woodside, Dr. Victor Gambone, allegedly prepared a written statement proclaiming Terri to be in a "Permanent Vegetative State", but he never signed the document, questioning its authenticity and credibility.

In a 2002 medical evidentiary hearing, Dr. Gambone was questioned about the unsigned statement and asked why he had written it. His response: "Because Michael told me to do so."

* Dr Michael Baden reviewed bone-scans taken of Terri, which showed evidence of several broken and fractured bones in various stages of healing. He concluded that these injuries indicated a pro-longed period of trauma, caused by an accident, fall, or severe beatings by someone. Since Terri was never involved in an accident or documented fall, the conclusion appears at the very least, suspicious as to cause.

* It is documented that Terri's blood-sugar levels would be normal prior to any of Michael's visits, but extremely low, borderline of death, after his visits. It has been stated by the nursing staff that Michael would close and lock the door while visiting Terri, and have her medical chart with him. He allegedly edited out any positive comments regarding Terri's condition from her charts.

Nursing staff found an insulin bottle wrapped and concealed in paper within the trash barrel of Terri's room immediately after one of Michael's visits, and puncture-marks in her arm.

* Terri's parents visited her, and questioned the cause of the "injection-marks" in her arms. Michael immediately sought and won a court injunction preventing the parents from visiting or coming any where near their daughter.

* Michael, while still claiming to be the husband and legal guardian of Terri, has been cohabitating with Jodi Centonze. She is the mother of two of Michael's children while he is still legally married to Terri.

Jodi also, in conjuntion with Michael Schiavo, are both directors of the Jerger & Centonze Insurance Agency. This agency coincidently insures the Woodside Hospice where Terri is staying.


There is much, much more. But the point has been made. We are not dealing with a typical "Right-To-Die" case. We are in fact, dealing with a case of legalized murder, which has apparently been sanctioned by the courts.

Michael, who is alleged to have "a few" 7-figure life insurance policies out on Terri - - through his own insurance company, (Jerger & Centonze), has ordered that Terri's body be immediately cremated upon her demise.

This would undoubtedly prevent an autopsy, and thwart any efforts by forensic experts to uncover evidence of spousal abuse. Something definitely stinks here.

My question is, with all the media coverage that this case has spurred, WHY are we not hearing any of this?


Posted by: Bob at March 26, 2005 1:20 PM


Finally, someone has searched and researched this in and outs of this case like I have. The media only wants to recover what will sell. I never listen to the news. I get on the net to research it thoroughly myself, so I can get unbiased facts. I do not want to be led like the other sheep. That is why I post many links to the cold hard facts.

In a court deposition for the malpractice suit(in the early 90's), Michael was asked about Terri's jewelry, he stated that he melted down her rings and used the diamonds to make a ring for himself. This is during the timeframe were he said in court that would take care of her, this is about four+ years before he remembered she told him he didn't want to live like that.

You are right about the insurance policies. I found plenty evidence of that. He was director of that company in 2001 -2002.

It all reeks! If someone took the time to string all the pertinent facts together into one hell of a timelime more people would see what has been overlooked and ignored.

Just like poor Laci Peterson & Conner - I knew by her husband's lack of involvement in searching for her, and his lack of emotion that he was her killer.

Thanks Bob! Let's hope Jeb steps in this week before it is too late.

Posted by: Carol at March 26, 2005 3:21 PM

Some of you people should be ashamed of yourselves for making up or repeating lies.
I hope you get caught and sued for slander

Posted by: Karen at March 27, 2005 12:15 AM

Bob, you asked why are we not hearing more in the media about the allegations you raised. Actually the media has mentioned some of these. Maybe we don't hear more about these points because they cannot be verified? I don't know if they can or cannot be. It seems that if there were some fire beneath the smoke that the authorities would have moved on it. It also seems that if there was something there the Schindlers would have been developing the information to further their cause.
But that is not the reason for my post.

Everyone says they want what's best for Terri, this article presents a point about giving Terri what she has earned.

Posted by: Emmy at March 27, 2005 2:30 AM

I'd love to have five minutes on the phone with Michael and his whore of a girlfriend. How dare he pretend to care for Terri while shacking up with some woman and making two bastard children with her? She's as bad as he is. How can she move in with this man who chooses to stay married? How can she bear children by a man who is still married? Easy question to answer... she wants the blood money as much as he does. What a selfish pair. My only comfort is that both of them will pay for their selfishness with an eternity of suffering, while poor Terri will only have to suffer for a few weeks. It's disgusting. Those of you who say that Terri is "married" and her "husband" should make the decisions obviously have a different marriage than what my husband and I have. My husband doesn't live with another woman, doesn't share a bed with another woman, and doesn't bear children by another woman. He also wouldn't try to kill me. Call me crazy, but that's what marriage is. Until DEATH do us part, not until MURDER do us part.

And another thing... My husband and I both have a living will. No, we would not want to live the way Terri has. But that is OUR decision. Not only does my husband know I feel this way, but my sister, my mother, my father, my best girlfriends and my aunt all know this. We're to believe that Terri never told ANYONE else that she didn't want to live this way?

Michael Schiavo is a piece of white trash with no conscience, and his nasty girlfriend is no better. They will both get what is coming to them. Terri's blood is on their hands.

Posted by: Julie at March 27, 2005 10:27 AM

Julie, you just condemned two totally innocent children who consciously had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS... like the courts condemned innocent Terri. Remember the parable about the slave going to the slave-owner, begging for his freedom because he could never pay the amount asked by the slave-owner, only to turn around and put his own servant in jail because that guy couldn't pay.

We can criticize, but if we wish or do the exact same-condemning innocent children- we ARE the same as what we condemn. And we can't go from criticizing to violence, because then again we are what we condemn.

A lot of people here have taken the time to read many of the court documents and have come to the same conclusion that the judge, for a number of reasons, made an initial error in finding that the husband in this case knew exactly what Terri wanted without documentation and therefore appointed him Terri's ward. This '"girlfriend" is not the ward and because we don't have the documentation, we don't know the story.

We do not know the way Terri would have wanted to live. However, she has hung on far longer over the years than expected, perhaps because she wanted to. Perhaps she adjusted to her particular state and just the daily human contact with her loving family was all she wanted to live for. Maybe it gave her great joy every day, the way she experienced it..was it a lesser life? NO. I somehow think of all the people on this planet, it would be her family that would SENSE what she really wanted.

Posted by: monica at March 27, 2005 11:13 AM

Here's the irony of it all. After Terri passes away, Michael Schiavo will indeed collect monies from perhaps movies, books, etc. As will his common law wife. But, when the girlfriend can't take all the guilt, and if Michael Schiavo doesn't treat her like a queen, she may hit the road and become a millionairess on her own with her movies, books, etc. She'll do as Amber Frye(Scott Peterson) has been doing. Michael will be punished because of his ruthless, Karma. Just wait and see.What I want to see is Terri's family suing Michael S. for zillions and he winds up totally broke!

Posted by: Kathy at March 27, 2005 3:56 PM


Posted by: LINDA at March 28, 2005 2:37 PM

This is MURDER!!! People go to JAIL if they starve their ANIMALS but now that Terri , A HUMAN BEING is being starved it's being called a right-to-die. And even if the abuse stories of Michael Schiavo aren't true, the courts should take them into consideration! The judge is obviously being paid! If Michael loves her as much as he claims he does, he wouldn't be committing adultry and he would let her parents take the legal guardianship in a hope to cure her. If she's made attempts to say she wants to live she obviously isn't in a vegetative state! This is NOT constitutional!The lawyer's ability to quote "let her spirit speak to him and tell her how much she wants to live" is a crok of bull! Geeze! Won't someone do something???

Posted by: Jasmine at March 28, 2005 9:50 PM

I think this bastard`s home address should be posted again. It looks like his death wish for poor Terri will come true. May he rot in Hell. I hope to God he doesn`t get away with this....he deserves whatever hell comes his way.

Posted by: Moonstruck at March 29, 2005 8:27 AM

I just wanted to comment that no one has even mentioned in this whole time, the fact that Dr Kevorkian is sitting in prison for the very thing that Michael Schiavo is doing to his wife, per judicial order. Why is it legal for this man and not legal for Dr Kevokian?

Posted by: Sandy at March 29, 2005 10:04 AM

I just wanted to comment that no one has even mentioned in this whole time, the fact that Dr Kevorkian is sitting in prison for the very thing that Michael Schiavo is doing to his wife, per judicial order. Why is it legal for this man, and not legal for Dr Kevorkian?

Posted by: Sandy at March 29, 2005 10:06 AM


Posted by: LINDA SIMMONS at March 29, 2005 10:28 AM

There is a lot of ways where Terri's case differs from Kervorkian's case.

First off, Michael Schiavo "hearsay" about Terri's wishes should of never been admissable in court. Courts don't rule on hearsay! She wasn't dying or suffering from a terminal disease. Michael is just a damn good liar. His actions should speak louder than words.

When Felos (he makes my skin crawl) announced Michael would allow an autopsy on Terri, I about choked. The Medical Examiner by law has to perform one. I read his policy on the website. With the DCF filing abuse/neglect claims concerning Terri,you can bet there is going to be an extensive investigation into the whole ordeal.

I hope she makes it.

Posted by: carol at March 29, 2005 1:02 PM

This whole situation is a disgrace. I don't talk about it with people because every time I hear someone say what a great guy Michael is, I have to restrain myself from punching them. Since he's with another woman and has two kids with her, obviously his main concerns are what is best for them, not Terri.

How he has been able to remain the legal guardian in the first place is beyond me. I believe in karma, and somehow, someway, he will not get away with this. Eventually the truth about Michael Schiavo's intentions will come out.

Posted by: Tony at March 29, 2005 5:44 PM

This whole situation is a disgrace. I don't talk about it with people because every time I hear someone say what a great guy Michael is, I have to restrain myself from punching them. Since he's with another woman and has two kids with her, obviously his main concerns are what is best for them, not Terri.

How he has been able to remain the legal guardian in the first place is beyond me. I believe in karma, and somehow, someway, he will not get away with this. Eventually the truth about Michael Schiavo's intentions will come out.

Posted by: Tony at March 29, 2005 5:45 PM

I think in this whole situation that one very important thing is being pushed into the background and that's Terri Schiavo. How sad and unfortunate that she has become a political pawn, a media spectacle and a VICTIM!!!!!! Nobody knows exactly what she does/doesn't hear, see or "know". For the simple fact that she is in a "state" of minimal or no awareness as we are being led to believe. The only one who knows is Terri herself and it's heartbreaking that she can't speak up and tell everyone what she really wants! I can't believe all the people on here who have posted the name-calling, threats and accusations about her husband Michael (don't get me started about this one because I share some of the same sentiments). But this isn't about Michael Schiavo bashing or what people think should happen to him. There is such a thing as Karma and a higher judge will take good care of our Michael when the time comes. I just wish more people would focus on the fact that an innocent woman is being starved and dehydrated to DEATH and there is apparently nothing in this country that can be done to stop it! That's what is so scary to me! She is laying up in a hospice and being forced to die from starvation and dehydration and that's just sick and horrible! God rest Terri's soul and someday all the people who have made a buck off of her and all the people who have hurt this woman will be made to be accountable, God as my witness!

Posted by: Diana at March 29, 2005 10:31 PM

I am a Nurse,,Michael claims to be a Nurse,,"he" is a Nurse from hell because where I got my Nursing License from we are "ANGELS" of mercy and do not nor would not condone the euthanasia of any human being! This man has the mind of a psychopath and money "does" play a big part in this. Michael...give this loving, warm, live woman(Terri) back to her family whom deeply love her and want her and stop being vindictive and controlling with Terri because it suits your ugly attitude. May God have mercy on your soul along with your family's.

Posted by: Kathy at March 29, 2005 11:01 PM

Terri is definitely a fighter! I pray for a miracle.

Just heard that the Pope needs a feeding tube, because he has trouble swallowing. Sounds familar doesn't it.

Isn't that ironic?

Maybe the powers that be will wise up and reconnect Terri before it is too late.

Did anyone hear that Felos has a book waiting to be released when Terri dies? I do not believe anyone should make a plug nickel off of Terri especially her scusband and his sleazing attorney.

Posted by: Carol at March 30, 2005 12:39 AM

the parents should file for divorce from michael on their daughters behalf. whether she wanted to stay alive by artificial means or not she surely wouldn't have permitted him to take up with another woman and have children by her...

Posted by: DAWN at March 30, 2005 12:41 PM

Does anyone have any clue why FL Roman Catholic Bisop Lynch is siding with Michael
and thereby distancing himself from the stated positions of the RC Church?

Posted by: Ferdinand Gajewski, PhD at March 30, 2005 3:46 PM

I just read on the net that the Georgia court has again ruled against the Schindlers on their latest appeal! What kind of people do we have sitting in our courts as judges these days? I hope that the people in Florida vote out Judge George Greer and all of those judges who voted insanely against letting Terri live!! I don't even want to visit that state, because God forbid I should have a catastrophe while there, and be treated as Teri has been. I and my husband have friends who live there,and they're as upset as we are with the courts there as well as the 11th district court in Atlanta. Shame shall be their names, as well as Michael, his "Jodi" lover and mother of his 2 kids, and especially George Felos. He's some kind of nut, thinking he can "look into a person's eyes and soul and know if they want to live or die! He's a kook if there ever was one. May the real God of Heaven have mercy on his soul, because he's going to need it when he stands before HIM !!!

Posted by: LINDA at March 30, 2005 3:55 PM

I just read on the net that the Georgia court has again ruled against the Schindlers on their latest appeal! What kind of people do we have sitting in our courts as judges these days? I hope that the people in Florida vote out Judge George Greer and all of those judges who voted insanely against letting Terri live!! I don't even want to visit that state, because God forbid I should have a catastrophe while there, and be treated as Teri has been. I and my husband have friends who live there,and they're as upset as we are with the courts there as well as the 11th district court in Atlanta. Shame shall be their names, as well as Michael, his "Jodi" lover and mother of his 2 kids, and especially George Felos. He's some kind of nut, thinking he can "look into a person's eyes and soul and know if they want to live or die! He's a kook if there ever was one. May the real God of Heaven have mercy on his soul, because he's going to need it when he stands before HIM !!!

Posted by: LINDA at March 30, 2005 3:57 PM

You are all idiots. Well meaning, but idiots nonetheless. You have all played the rumor game. A man/husband is being maligned by individuals who happen to believe differently from him. The obvious rumors that are now being repeated as truths are sad at best and malicious at worst. The so called facts are supposedly being ignored by so many different individuals and groups and institutions that are designed to protect our rights and freedoms.
How can you, with a straight face, intimate that such a large and complex conspiracy of stupidity exists between so many intelligent and professional persons.
You are diluting your valiant efforts with all this bad information that is so obviously contrived and false. Please accept that you and Michael have differing opinions and realize that you accomplish nothing with your continuous attacks. Please allow Michael to survive this miserable time without your false accusations that may have been based in some fact, in some minute way, so very long ago. You really should read your own blog. It is obviously erroneous.

Posted by: Joel at March 30, 2005 4:26 PM

Joel, who do you think you are? do you think you know everything...well you don't...and anytime a man is living with another woman and has 2 kids by her, he's not "married" in the true sense to either one!!! Shame on you !!! we can have "so-called" professionals with all of their degrees, but still be stupid when it comes to making moral decisions like this....

Posted by: LINDA at March 30, 2005 5:27 PM

Courts rule from ancient law traditions of English Common Law which said that a wife and children were the "chattel" of a man, as in "his property." Unfortunately, these beliefs about male entitlement are ingrained in modern society, and will continue to affect law for a long time to come. I believe the court that ruled on Ms. Schiavo's fate by using only hearsay evidence, have set a prededence that will start a downward slide to ethics in America.

Posted by: M. Ferres at March 30, 2005 5:54 PM

I give it two weeks after Terri's death and none of you will remember her or even care anymore. Everyone gets all caught up in what the media spews out and then weeks later no one cares anymore. I'd like to see one of you go to her funeral and visit her yearly on her death date to prove just how much you love her and support her.

Posted by: K. Bianco at March 30, 2005 7:29 PM

K.Bianco - I have been following Terri's plight for nearly three years. If she lives or dies, I will never,ever forget her. She is a sweet soul. As far as attending her funeral, I believe that will be a private affair for just the family. You are a super silly person. You don't have to visit someone's grave site on a regular basis to remember, and love them. They live in your heart always. Remember them as they were among the living. Why would the deceased need anyone's support?

Joel- As my mother always said "it takes one to know one". CONVILUTED logic at best! A few of us did research without listening to the "media spew". If it smells like a skunk, then it is a skunk! I believe Michael has survived his miserable time quite well - haha! He got a new life, new money, new house, new Gold Acura, new mate, new occupation, new family, and new fame! What has poor Terri gotten? Most rumors usually pan out to be the truth of the matter. Why don't you start a fan club for your boy Michael?

M. Ferres - Spot on. I totally agree this will start a downward slide to the ethics in the US. That decline started about 10+ years ago.

Posted by: Carol at March 30, 2005 8:05 PM

For those of one who believe Judge Greer needs to be canned.

Go here to sign the petition to fire him.

I signed it about a week ago and it was at 6,000.

Posted by: Carol at March 30, 2005 8:16 PM

"How can you, with a straight face, intimate that such a large and complex conspiracy of stupidity exists between so many intelligent and professional persons."

Well, Nazi Germany, for one! Many of their professionals ended up working for large US corporations in the 1950's. I guess America was "stupid" too. Or maybe they just wanted all that brilliant technical knowledge, even though it was used a decade earlier for the most nefarious of purposes.

And some of us aren't intimating stupidity, we are saying it's errant logic, void of emotion and simple common sense. See directly above.

How about the institution of slavery.. exactly how many CENTURIES did that go on? It was thriving during the writing of the Constitution. Intelligent and Enlightened men (sorry gals!) wrote the Constitution. How many slaves did Thomas Jefferson own?

There were and are all kinds of questionable decisions made by intelligent people and "enlightened" courts ..all over the world.

Again, (coughing) many of us HAVE read the court documents, and STILL find Judge Greer's ruling to be to the detriment of Terri and her family. Again, so do disabled activists.

You sir, need to wake up regarding institutional CYAing! And read EVERY post! Don't pick and choose and then make ad hominem judgements.

And I very much doubt that this will be forgotten, as everyone has a personal stake in their own right to life or end-of-life decisions, no matter how other's in judicial authority perceive the "quality" of that life.

Posted by: monica at March 31, 2005 12:19 AM

"Most rumors usually pan out to be the truth of the matter" ?

Is that an admission that some of the information being spread about this case is just that.....Rumors?
In reality rumors don't pan out to become truth, rather the truth comes first and turns into rumors based on people's interpretations.

Please, law in this country has progressed a bit from the early English Common Law. The law that would give a person guardianship rights over their spouse apply equally whether it is a male or female spouse that obtains guardianship. It does not appear that there have been any new legal precedents that have been set in this case.

If you don't think a spouse should have guardianship rights what would you suggest to be the law of the land?


Posted by: emmy at March 31, 2005 1:25 AM

emmy- As usual, you need everything digested and spelled out for you.

The definition of rumor is a piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth. If you don't know about the truth first hand then it is the rumor that comes first.

The following statement is very self explanatory -"Most rumors usually pan out to be the truth of the matter".

In my experience, if you hear a rumor about something numerous times, it usually is true. Here is an example for you so you'll better understand.

I worked at a company that failed over a period of seven years. Whenever there were widespread rumors about an upcoming lay off, it happened without fail within the next month. After going through that for many years, I learned that rumors can lead to the truth about a situation.

I base everything about Terri's case on my research for court documents, affidavits, medical records, etc. I do not even watch the news.

Judge Greer based his decision to end Terri's life on hearsay from Michael.

Posted by: Carol at March 31, 2005 4:14 AM

Terri has died.

God bless her.

Posted by: Carol at March 31, 2005 10:01 AM

Well, they were able to do it. My granddad was a POW , there is nothing worse than starving someone. He never forgot that. Michael Schiavo didn't even let the family see her as she was passing.

Horrible. Just utterly horrible.

Posted by: monica at March 31, 2005 10:07 AM

Michael:Are you happy now?You are one total jerk!
Remember what goes around comes around,and you
have two children.I hope that you get yours some
day.Helen Riley from Canada.

Posted by: Helen Riley at March 31, 2005 10:55 AM

Michael Shiavo is a murderer, plain and simple...and the judge in this case are guilty by complicity...therefore, it is up to us as Americans to take the fight directly to them, to take justice into our own hands...because it is painfully obvious that judges in this country have ruled in favor of a culture of death...Judge Greer was excommunicated from his church because they, who know him so well, knew of his evilness...Michael Shiavo is so evil that he wouldn't let anyone in the room when she died, for fear of his abusing her of coming out, even up until the end...those who have the guts, and the fortitude to stand up and fight for what they believe in need to take up arms, for we are now at war...there is no doubt that if good men do not stand up and are willing to fight and if necessary, die, then evil will triumph...obviously, our first fight is in florida, and we must eliminate these dangers to the culture of life...since the only thing that michael shiavo, judge greer and the other judges understand is a culture of death, I say give it to them...

Posted by: John at March 31, 2005 11:33 AM


I feel this is a sad day for the world as a whole and for the loss of life of a defenseless lady.

What right does anyone have to Judge and allow a fellow human to starve to death - if there heart beats they should be given every opportunity to recover.

I send my condolences to the Shiavo family and to the rest of the world who are deeply saddened by the loss of such a lovely lady.

I feel legal action needs to be taken in terms of bringing this case back to court and a legal fund should be created so that people can contribute to legal expenses incurred in taking the US legal system to account for what they did was wrong and for the people responsible to be judged accordingly.

Mark O'Meara


Posted by: Mark O'Meara at March 31, 2005 11:51 AM

TJ, Correction, REPUBLICANS ARE DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY...where have you been! Plus, that has nothing to do with the situation!!! You have some serious issues. I'll pray for you.

Posted by: GG at March 31, 2005 1:36 PM

Sorry TJ, my post was for Joe.

Posted by: GG at March 31, 2005 1:43 PM

Get a load of this quote:

Michael Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, said his client was cradling his wife as she died a "calm, peaceful and gentle" death Thursday morning.

I hope Felos is lying. Schiavo and Felos had no right to steal Terri's last moments from those who loved her (your parents and siblings).

Felos and Schiavo made the whole ordeal a media circus. I am sure at this point Terri was in a coma, and didn't who was in the room.

To Helen Riley & Makr O'Meara - As an American I'd like to tell you that I truly enjoyed your posts. They touched my heart. Those who caused her death will bask in thier 15 minutes of fame, but they will certainly reap what they have sown. I hope I live long enough to see what happens to each and everyone of them.

Posted by: Carol at March 31, 2005 5:54 PM

I think half of you are crazy and need to just let Terry rest in peace. Who left you God of judgement. Tell me if Terry could wake up and see herself for 2 minutes and make a dicision, she would say "live". I doubt it. She took pride in her looks and self. If anyone is at fault, blame the parents of those children arrested for taking Terri water! This is a form of child abuse. Why bring children in as pawns? Put yourself in the shoe's of Mike. If he wanted the easy way out, he would have just walked away years ago. No, he faught for what he believed.
I will pray for all of you. I wish you protesters would gt a life!

Posted by: Marylou_not at March 31, 2005 6:49 PM

I think it's ridiculous that a judge would let michael make the decision based on the fact that he was her legally her husband and that when you get married you leave your parents and cling to your spouse.Because although that is true it also says "Keep yourself ONLY unto them as long as you BOTH shall live!!" He had not kept that part of the vows so why should the rest matter? He has been living with another woman for 10yrs committing adultry!! He didnt want to divorce her he said because he didnt believe in divorce but yet he was committing ADULTRY!!! I think he is a murderer!!! I wouldnt be surprised if he hasnt already married the other woman. I also think that he has done most of what he has done out of spite toward her family. It's wrong just wrong to deny her mom and dad to be with her when she died and to have a funeral for her. He got what he wanted she is dead now and clearly he has moved on why not let her family mourn her and bury her?

Posted by: kay at March 31, 2005 9:52 PM

Let's all pray for both families now and not assume we know every thing about either Mr. Schiavo or Terri's parents. Lets all get living wills and keep in mind our familly's not just our own self in our wishes. By that im mean talk to your spouse or partner and see what they would want also. Make your wishes known to your parents. This is called getting our house in order. Let stop killing each other with our words of hate on both sides, stop it in Gods name and Terri's name and in honor of her. Fight the good fight but do it in love and with great respect of one another. Agree to disagree. work hard to change the law but work much harder to love, and it is truly work sometimes but the one we honored this last sunday (Jesus) loved and loves us all with no good reason to even when we done care or hate or kill or hurt each other. I don't know this but just maybe if Terri could say one last thing it would be let us all love as Jesus first loved. God bless

Posted by: Robert at April 1, 2005 12:20 AM

Michael Schiavo's girlfriend needs to be concerned about her health. If she was to have a castrophic illness that landed her in the hospital she may be the next on his starvation list.

His actions speak clearly to his character. Think about that Jane.

Posted by: Rhonda Seedig at April 1, 2005 10:23 AM

They need to change the law base on Marriage Life, I believe it what you and others are saying...There is alot of red flag about Michael Schiavo.....Marriage are getting dangerous because the innocent wives are in danger by the hand of husbands, divorced spouse or friends and so forth....About Terri's wishes, there is something wrong, because Terri trusted Michael and came down to Michael's affair who's suppose to be Terri's friend turned out to be lover!!!That would devastated Terri and Michael chose the other woman over Terri regardless of what's he's doing!! The marriage vows for better, for worse, for worse that they are in, Thou shall not commit adultry toward for better, for worse!!!!!!! So...Judges and Lawyers needs to make new laws and obey GOD,JESUS RULES!!!! As for Judge Greer, he helped broke the laws and ended in helping to murder!!!!Before Michael commit his adultry, he should have divorce her and let her go with her family so she can have peace. Terri died in the hand of abused laws!!!!
The Living Will, they need to change and to add specific questions base in Marriage life with abuse and adultry of age 21 to near 50 years old, They should have done that because There is no protection in marriage with different reason in life. As for NewBorn and Old Age yes, they do have the will base on their decision. Sometimes someone can contest the living will for any reason!!!!! GOD BLESS TERRI AND HER FAMILY

Posted by: Nina at April 1, 2005 11:29 AM

Everything Micheal Schiavo has done is wrong. He wanted her to die. He took her from her family and now he won't even let them bury her! He even said he doesn't want them to be at her funeral. This guy is wrong. God bless her family.

Posted by: Becca at April 1, 2005 2:57 PM

Thank God..Terri don't have to deal with thay monster of a husband any longer.

Posted by: mary at April 1, 2005 9:38 PM

you should all be ashamed and you call yourselves holy?

Posted by: b.s. at April 2, 2005 10:37 AM

b.s. - I never said I was holy, just human.

Posted by: Carol at April 2, 2005 10:59 AM

Who made a circus of Terri Schiavo's death? It certainly wasn't Michael Schiavo. It's difficult to believe that the whole court system is stupid enough to side with Michael's position if all that is said about him, or even part of it, was shown to be true. I'm sad that Terri had to live in such a state for so long and I'm especially sad that her parents made such a spectacle of her death.

Posted by: Arctic at April 2, 2005 12:02 PM

How can you say that Michael Schiavo didn't make Terri's death a circus then in the next breath state her parents made a such a spectacle of her death? Felos made a spectacle of Terri's death by feeding the media tidbits about her appearance, etc.

Conviluted logic! Sorry to inform the court system is stupid. Most of them tend to believe the husband\male versus the woman. I know first hand from going through a nasty divorce. Judge Greer heard only what he wanted to hear. Selective hearing! Greer is a woman hater. Check out his record and the poor woman he denied protection to and was later killed by her estranged husband.

Terri was the first born child to her parents. How would you feel if someone did that to you? I would fight like a rabid dog to save my child if need be. If the Schindler's didn't fight, then you and others would have complained that they did do anything to save Terri.

Michael is no saint by a long shot. He didn't take his vows seriously when he thought more about his libido than rspecting his wedding vows to Terri. My husband and many other men think he is the scum of the earth for commiting adultery and having two children out of wedlock, then he tells us he can love two women. Bigamist! He wanted to cause the Schindlers pain after he received his $300,000. His whole attitude about Terri's medical care reversed and the Schindlers were concerned for Terri's well being. Michael also renegged on building a home for all of them to live in and take care of Terri.

He is no better than Scott Peterson. They are cut from the same cloth, only Scott didn't have years to perfect his crime. Michael had 15 years to perfect his alibi, and motive so that he wouldn't get caught.

Posted by: Carol at April 2, 2005 2:28 PM

I am still in shock, that a man that did not love this women could control everything. Not even to allow the family to bury their daughter. This man is a rat.And if a book deal comes out I will not read it. In my opinion he is the one that made her lose the weight and get sick. What does he have to hide I wonder. Please post this.

Posted by: Paula at April 2, 2005 9:21 PM

Paula - I totally agree with you. I heard Felos has a book about this topic waiting to be released. As for Michael, what was the huge hurry to cremate within 24 hours of dying. Why did he have her cremated then buried? It will take nearly three weeks for the autopsy report to be complete. I pray to God this never becomes a movie or a book.

Posted by: Carol at April 2, 2005 9:45 PM

Michael Schaivo should be treated the same way he treated Terri. He should rot in H@@@! If her parents were willing to keep Terri alive, so be it. Michael was only related to Terri in marriage, thats it!! I strongly believe that a person's real family (One inherited at birth) should really decide the fate of the person.
The screwed up laws in this country must be changed!!

Posted by: Michael Hermanson at April 3, 2005 1:12 AM

The Truth

Michael, why did you hurt me so bad when I devoted my life to you. How could you hurt me so bad when in this world there is a thing called divorce. Why did you hit me so hard? Was it to destroy my mind, my soul and my speech? Why? Were you afraid to be told on? Was it so you could live in your world of sin? How can a man of your size pick on someone so little as myself? Was I not the wife you wanted? Was I not the wife you told me I would be? You killed my soul you killed my heart you killed what was important to me. You removed my family when I needed them most and you tried to make everyone believe you did for me what was best. Your CONSCIOUS will eat you soon and in your dreams you will soon see me. You will speak of what you have done to me. You will scream in disgust for you have killed me. But you have killed me physically. I am still here. I am alive even more than before. I am here to stay in your mind and in your life. I will destroy you like you destroyed me. I will make you repeat out loud what you did to me on that night. When you took my life away and made me what I was. You had the chance to call 911 you had the chance to allow me to live but you knew the more time you wasted the more brain dead I would become. You are a coward a disgusting man. A man with no courage, that had to do this to me, your wife. What you do to those will come back to you. Ten times harder than what has been done to me. My money, yes my money enjoy for soon it will slip away like sand between your hands. You will see me very soon eye to eye before you go down beneath, for very soon the valley of darkness awaits you.

Michael, his family or friends I hope you read this. I hope that you read what terri was feeling and thinking. I hope this eats each and everyone of you. You guys killed and incident peron. Love and honesty is much more powerful than money. An abuse man should be put behind jail to suffer and see the reality of what is being done behind bars. If this was done to your mom or sister how would you react how would you feel. YOu would probably fight just as hard as Terr's family did. I hope none of you guys ever go through such thing like this. Michael you should have given the body to Terris family. Terris mom had every right to be with her she brought her into this world and now she should have put her to reset and you took that from her. God is great and God will make you realize what you have done. Bless Terr's Family.

Posted by: Carla at April 3, 2005 1:52 AM

The decision to let Terri die is an abomination of God and all this country was built on....

I don't see how the judges can sleep at night and this has put a big black eye on our country...

The only comfort I can offer is that God is a "just" God and He will judge one day...

Posted by: BILLIE at April 4, 2005 11:03 AM

Two recent national polls have listed nurses among the top ten professionals in terms of trust and professionalism.

Posted by: david calandra at April 4, 2005 7:38 PM

Do you really think it was Terie/s wish to die with her so called husband & her brother in law plus two lawerys standing by rather than her family? Makes me sick.

Posted by: annette at April 5, 2005 12:17 AM

I have read the article on the friend that Terri had visited that day where she did not want to even go home but did because Micheal would have been upset but I cannot find that article again...Do you by chance know where I can locate it. I wanted my daughter to read it. You seem to have researched Terri a great deal so I thought you would know.
It has been a sad year for Terri and I think Micheal was worried that if he gave gave guardianship back to her Mom and Dad that Terri might get well enough to tell that it was Michael that did this to her and he would then be locked up and couldn't be a slut puppy. And I really think he is thinking about making money off Terri even yet in movies or tabloids. I really hope her parents come up with some sound evidence to pursue court actions against Micheal....hopefully from her autopsy unless they are tied in with this evil circle of liars and killers.
Thank you, Annette

Posted by: Annette at April 8, 2005 5:17 AM

What has happened to the report on the Autopsy of Terri ? is this going to be covered up ? more
corruption with Murder from Judge Greer and the
infamous Lawyer ?

Posted by: Lester at May 1, 2005 10:41 AM

Lester - I have been wondering the same thing. I know that it takes 2 - 3 weeks for the brain to solidify in chemicals so it can be separated and studied.

Maybe, Michael is sitting on the results. Who knows, but it needs to be published for all to see.

Posted by: Carol at May 2, 2005 1:01 PM

Well, now that the autopsy report is out maybe all of these groundless accusations and speculations about the Schiavo's will cease. (I am not a Schiavo fan, but I am a fan of justice and facts, not the witch hunt mentality that has been swirling around this case) Does anyone still think that Terri would have recovered?

Interesting that the report found the accusations by some of the attending nurses about Michael injecting Terri with drugs as groundless. (that is not a condemnation of nurses, just a further realistic look at the facts)

Maybe now people will stop taking shots at the judges and lawyers that did their jobs in accordance with the law and not with some sinister hidden agenda as some have proposed.

I hope the govt. will not get involved in another circus like this again.( Terri's unfortuante case was not a circus, but it was turned into one by the public)

Posted by: emmy at June 15, 2005 3:48 PM

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